*funfact grindor is blackout I can explain the reason why grindor and blackout alts are different is because in 2008 the military took blackout alt mode away when rotf was being made still so bay and his crew needed a new alt to be the helicopter decepticon they got an Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion and also when rotf was being made grindor name was originally blackout in the novelization and Jr novel the argument people say is but grindor is bigger then blackout no he isn’t his size is an error alot he goes from being 33ft tall to being 50ft alot in the movie and in the tie in game for rotf the game files call grindor blackout and in 2009 it was confirmed that this could be true but Roberto forgot and couldn’t remember so he said it’s grindor but note he was confused and on Hasbro tfwiki Hasbro stated they had to continue the robot heroes line and that they gave grindor blackout colors and in rotf the heroes optimus toy comes with blackout not grindor and if you look closely there another contact from the constructicons and megatron (forgot if it wasn’t or was) and if you look closely grinder has the same exact rust spots blackout dismembered body had and no its not a CGI model and one thing people are gonna say is grindor toy bio debunks this but thats not true because last we remember grindor got handed to him in rotf by prime and Hasbro bios are noncanon it was for kids to fall in love and adult collectors and the official scalechart for rotf calls the Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion blackout and it isn’t a error at all and tf fans ask but if blackout is grindor how is he alive well he was revived by the shard in rotf like megatron but tf fans might say dismembered transformers cant reassemble your wrong if you remember the all spark reassembled frenzy body when he was just a head and brought stuff around it to life and this post is for tf fans*

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