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SillyWizard01
2024-07-08 15:05:23 UTC i wanted to address my thoughts and feelings regarding how i was treated, how i treated others and just generally how the entire thing went down yesterday, as well as my issues and why i treated others in the way i did
to start, jumph00ps has posted a couple of videos about lgbtq+ people, or rather, videos of pastors or christians talking about lgbtq+ people, these videos or christians he supports
its something thats come up a time again, and this was evident in the post 2-3 days prior to the drama that happened, as well as something more than a month ago (which isnt relevant)
the thing that he posted 2-3 days prior to the drama was this video
the thing that started the drama was calibre replying and me replying, both having a conversation
it was specifically that, or that by itself, it was calibre continuing to reply days after the post had been made, replying at least once a day or something
it started to get heated, but that was that
this wasnt the drama that was bigg yesterday, so let me get to thatthe drama that got big yesterday was ralph jokingly saying he was going to ban anyone who said sigma
i had replied to this, saying “oh, youll ban people for saying sigma but not people who make actual issues, such as jumph00ps”
im wrong about jumph00ps making actual issues, the only issues he does is the lgbtq+ videos he posts every once in a while
but my point still stands, the fact that ralph doesnt do much in terms of moderation
i guess its why we have moderators, but what do we do when those moderators are incompetent?
you could argue that what started the drama was me replying in the first place, but ralph decided to reply and say that
im “chomping at the bit” in his words, waiting to start drama
which isnt true at all, and it really felt like a middle finger
what the fuck??
i replied telling him to step off and then can you guess what happened
challas, something that hes been known for, or something that i know him for, is stepping into stuff that doesnt necessarily concern him
and he did the same thing again
saying “regardless of the situation you cant expect to have understanding if you dont show the same for others. constantly jumping onto others is inexcusable and unacceptable”
excuse me? i dont think i constantly jump onto others
yes, i have done that a time or two
most notably ive done it with beasty and chevy a couple of times, but im not constantly jumping onto others
im jumping onto TWO people that have already been shown to have been disliked
he went to say that ive escalated it into a mini-drama, which isnt true
i made one reply to him telling him that im fucking offended that he said im chomping at the bit, when im not?
then he went on to say that im being discriminatory to jumph00ps (someone whos shown discriminatory behaviors to queer people aswell)
“if he cant share an opinion on lgbtq, you cant share an opinion on christianity” is something that he said, which is technically true
but, in my personal opinion and in my defense, lgbtq is a group that isnt doing anything other than love which is something that “jesus” said, and christianity is a group that constantly goes after people, doing anything to preach here and to preach there, spread their beliefs onto other people and generally force people to be endowed in the blood of christ or whatever
“endowed in the blood of christ” as a metaphor, a lack of a better term
then he goes to say “why are you here?” in which i tried to tell him my situation, and then he flagged the entire thingill make it as short as i can, but for the record, my situation is that ive lived with my grandparents for my entire life, my dad was off doing drugs aand my mom was in another town
the past few years ive started sharing custody with my mom, and its been great living with her, but something unexpected happened 6 or so months ago, in august
my grandpa had a stroke or aneurysm or whatever, and a couple of months after that he died
this kickstarted this entire movement for my mom to quit her job, move out of her apartment and move here to take care of my grandma, who had been sick and bedridden for a couple of years now
we had started trying to pay the bills on the house, get rid of any credit cards my grandpa may have had, and most importantly start cleaning out his office in my moms town and his home office he has here
4 months after my grandpa died, my grandma followed
a couple of days after my birthday no less
do you know how fucking depressing it is to have to spend the entire day of your birthday with your dying fucking grandma? i loved her but holy fucking shit. i didnt wanna have to look at a damn near skeleton for my entire birthday
and then that brings us to here
weve finally found an apartment at our old complex, and it opens up in september
things are looking good aside from the money crisis
youd think, that with all that, a person would stay the same? a good little girl, not causing problems? not pissed off? not tired? to make it worse im going through puberty as well, so my emotions are all fucking over the place
id like some understanding with all of that, but given that the people i have issues with are 20+, im sure thats not going to happenas i said, challas flagged my entire explanation, evven though it was way shorter than what i have here
he just started flagging everything, relentlessly
every fucking post i made trying to talk, trying to comment on everything was just fucking shut down
it was so fucking annoying that i could even say anything
this is almost everything that he flagged that i feel was wrong
there was some stuff i didnt screenshot, so theres a couple more
did you see those last two? he decided to flag one post, and then flag the reply a couple of minutes later
im chomping at the bit? youre going to a length to flag both the post and the comment instead of just the post
that seems kind of eager to me
the only issue i could see is with the second one, but i was just trying to talk
maybe i was defaming challas yeah but i was trying to talk about the drama? and i couldnt do thatthat brings me onto my next point, which is the fact that it was so unfair
everyone was able to talk about the drama except me
everyone was able to share their peace on it except me
and something that i had noticed ewas that noone else was being flagged
wacka literally called challas a bitchboy and i dont think that got flagged
he was so focused and determined to flag me and everything that i say, that he ignored everyone else during that situation
he said at some point he was going to flag everything mentioning it and dragging it out, and yet he didnt
not one person other than me got flagged that entire day aside from wacka once. wacka only got flagged once.
it was so fucking unfair and it felt so fucking targeted because i have this reputation on sticknodes of “getting into drama”, which is something thats only happened in the last few months
ive been here for almost 3 years coming up on august, and not once aside from the past few months have i been getting into dramathis brings me onto the next topic, ralphs apology
the first thing is the fact that he decided to bring up something that from what i can remember hasnt happened in a while
he brought up the fact that he called me son once on accident, and i replied “son?” which is something i do alot
im not gonna go “HEY. NO. CALL ME DAUGHTER OR YOURE A BITCH”
im just gonna hint at it, nudge you to say the other thing instead of son
and he said that i was “ready to do a pronoun fight”
thats so fucking infuriating and unfair???
hes thinks im ready to take an obvious lighthearted joke and escalate it into something big, something im “ready to be upset over” which is not something i think ive ever done aside from when i first joined and didnt get the whole shtick (stick?) of gigan being the resident site cllown or whatever
the other thing that pissed me off was the fact he didnt address challas at all, he said he wasnt going to go through it all and just assumed challas was doing his jobb, not looking at the bigger picture which is something wacka has already addressed
it really sucks that people wont take into consideration how fucked someones life can be and why that may be making them lash out
i dont mean to sound like an edgy fucktard teenager, but the joker from the joker self titled movie was right in some sense
“What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?”
hes right in some sense
what the fuck is supposed to happen when someone who is mentally fucked, with some mental disorder like anxiety, depression or what fucking ever meets a society that doesnt care enough to see the bigger fucking picture and treats them like trash, ignoring every single fucking thing that may be causing an outrage
its so fucking infuriating and it makes me feel alone, leaving me off with an “oh, im sorry youre going through such tough times right now! but thats unrelated and doesnt matter so fuck you and fuck what you stand for.”i am not mad, i am not escalating
i may have gotten a little upset over the course of this post and lashed out, but i am not mad
i am trying to say my peace on this matter, and that is all
im keeping this post unlocked if anyone wants to say my peace but i would prefer if it doesnt get heated, and if it does this post will be locked
thank you
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i agree with you 100%, jade, but there’s still good christians out there
id say the majority are actually really nice and not extremists like the ones that post ragebait on rumble and YouTube
i don’t like the fact that challas wasn’t being wary of your situation, like, at all though, because it really bleeds and knots into your behavior
it’s not escalation of someones commenting on it.
for example, a school fight broke out this year, a 3v1
a few hours later, im in my history class, and an announcement goes out to everyone addressing the fight at lunch
on top of the enforced ‘no physical altercations on school grounds,’ our vice decided to also enforce that anyone who talks about it gets a detention
a lot of kids felt like that was abuse of power, and not even a few days later, they banned phones at lunch
what im getting at is that people with power will tend to get too trigger happy and just fire at anyone for stepping out of line the slightest
thank you for going to the lengths to step up jade
i guess youre right about the christians
a majority of them are nice
my grandma was a christian and shes nice
i just really dont like the thing about religion so im kind of letting that get in the way of some of this drama
yeah
people with power wil get too trigger happy, i know that for sure
…that one time i almost nuked our world
but yeah i dont think challas is the right person for mod if hes just gonna
flag this left and right for escalation and not let me talk until a day later, but ive already said all that time and time again
I don’t know what to say really about the drama.
All I can say is that I feel like we should just end the drama finally
im ready to end it but i just had to say something about it before its over
I agree but here’s my solution for drama starters.
bro i was the one that started the drama 😭😭😭😭
NNNOOOOO
omg its a different version of my iconic raccoon gif i used against oxxy that one time
This whole thing started because a married christian decided it would be a good idea to talk about lgbtq+ on a stickfigure animating site with half the users being lgbtq+
My view on this is that, everyone is sick and tired of all these stupid dramas, which is why Ralph didn’t bother to do much, and Challas bothered to do too much.
Him flagging every post you made was a dumb thing to do in the first place
Where is freedom of speech, everyone has their right on speaking their mind, but it should also be logical and not disrespectful
And Jade, no one is against you, you’re not alone, so stop saying that you feel alone, because you have a lot of people here for you
but when you give out responses like “son?” like that Ralph post, no one knows how exactly you meant it, because you are typing, not talking with emotions, so people might see your response in different ways
which is why id say (everyone included) to specify their responses, to avoid unnecessary conflicts, and dont be so offended to lighthearted jokes (not saying you were)
Last thing, id say its better we have a better moderation system
because if each mod can flag whatever they want by themselves, this stuff can happend
so id say itd be better to have a system where all mods have to agree on flagging a post and such, not just the one flagging it.
In the end, lets just put an end to this already, its stupid and aggrivating.
i want to go on here without seeing any stupid people doing/saying stupid stuff and agitate other people into doing/saying even more stupid stuff over stupid reasons
this used to be a website to share stickfigure content, not religion, not drama, not being homophobic
the point of the ralph post though is…. why is he bringing that up? it doesnt make sense to bring that up because its not relevant to this situation
but yeah, a moderation system sounds like a good idea, along with removing challas as a mod
i know i seem very biased against him just for this, but yeah
i just realized that when i siad “did you see the lsat 2?” thef irst one of the two was different 😭😭 but my point still stands
he flagged one comment at 3:54pm or whatever and then flagged the reply at 4:01pm which goes to show he went out of his way to flag a reply that you couldnt even see already
I agree with most of your points here (idk what else to say :p)
I wanted to hold my tongue on behalf of not getting tangled up with the drama and dragging myself through the mud but I feel it’s important to say a few things.
First off, Challas I felt also may have been singling you out or at the very least getting a little trigger happy and using the concern / category of escalation as a reason to flag your stuff. All in all it’s long-winded but seeing Challas lose composure or flag lots of posts, yours mainly, it does seem questionable and I don’t support it.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not for degrading Challas but I do feel it was a mis-step, he may have averted drama from you but let’s not forget all the other posts calling the drama out, not to mention gatekeeping your posts to ‘ stop drama ‘ even though not all of your stuff was drama-oriented and was more personal and based on your feelings from recent events.
Secondly I think that bringing religion into the site in general, posting religious stuff the way jumphoops does, is not the place for it, religion is fine but if we all start sharing our viewpoints, religious teachings and ideologies we already have seen the conflict that can be caused from it, do we really want to open that can of worms? I feel that because most people here are used to Christianity etc they’ll turn a cheek to it, but fundamentally it’s a slippery slope and with so many LGBTQ+ users here it is and has been a disaster waiting to happen.
I think something to note in all this is that while it’s a hard-call to decide what to hide and cut off from the public in the sake of drama reduction, we are not a huge website averaging multiple posts a minute, we get a few updates a day and cutting posts off means stopping prominent individuals from speaking, which is rough. Sometimes we got to do what’s right but I feel with such forceful moderation we are going to be building some totalitarian social platform. To stop drama we need understanding, not harsh enforcement. I understand where each side is coming from, at least I believe I do but we need to recognise that we are all closely knitted with how small this community is and need to preserve that and strengthen it however we can while preserving morally correct and understanding principles.
lemo i just want to say that youre the best
youre the most righteous user on sticknodes and every opinion of yours hits, it never once misses
you absolutely cooked with this meal and it was 5 star, gordon ramsay approved
We getting a Michelin star with this b
No but on a real I don’t want to act like I’m taking sides, nobody is completely innocent I will say that, but by now given all party’s acknowledge their shortcomings we can hopefully move past all this and make some changes to some select things.