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    Cussoccifersubscribermega-noderuc-winner-lvl2featured-lvl2 2024-04-21 15:01:47 UTC

    Yo Challas, its to make people wary of interacting with Robert because hes a shit person. Being homophobic and transphobic is harmful to people of those communities, also, public discord servers arent private

    but cant expect more from a guy who makes figs of flags about mostly hateful things as a response to someone posting pride flags figs.

    Also, people post shit “not related to the purpose of this platform” on the site all the fucking time, you’ll make the argument that it isn’t harmful or disruptive, and to that i say, yeah okay sure, but telling people a user of THIS SITE, is a bad person (you and i can have a lovely chat about bad people, and how this makes him one if you want). Not to mention if youre so concerned about “kid-friendliness” (you arent it just serves to make yuor arguments agenda stronger) then you need to step up your game as mod.

    Ultimately, this site is an extenstion of the community, and that community ought to be wary of shitty people, and what interacting with them may entail

    Hopefully the rest of the bozos dont start making their own posts id like to keep it minimal

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    • Hey all, just came back here to say that this is the primary reason I said “We’ll see how this goes” in response to Challas being inaugurated as a mod, because I’m not fucking blind

      2024-04-21 15:07:22 UTC 15
    • who is Robert

      2024-04-21 15:21:12 UTC 5
    • We’ve long been aware that your circle of friends holds differing opinions from mine. However, I’ve never sought to impose my opinion on anyone here, including all of you.

      I’d like to introduce you to the concept of “defamation.”

      In my view, what makes people “shitty” isn’t solely their opinions, but rather how they impose them on others.

      Furthermore, I believe everyone has the right to their own opinions. Whether you agree with what Robert said or not is up to you.

      Honestly, I fail to see how he has demonstrated any threat to our community so far. I believe publicly exposing individuals for their opinions and resorting to defamation are clear indications of communal hostility and potential danger.
      IIt’s not my role to pass judgment on people’s opinions. Feel free to dislike whoever you wish. My responsibility is to ensure that individuals adhere to the basic rules, specifically, no hate speech directed at others. I lack the authority to enforce rules within the Discord group; if I could, I would have advised Robert to cease (or to facilitate a respectful discussion). However, since I lack access to Discord and the authority to enforce rules there, I can only do so here, and I will continue to do just that.

      Not to mention if youre so concerned about “kid-friendliness”

      I want to clarify that while I haven’t explicitly claimed to fully support kid-friendliness, I do recognize the importance of certain rules, such as prohibiting pornography and extreme gore.

      For people that do want to know what I wrote, here it is:

      It’s termed as “escalation.” These conversations take place on an external platform within a private server or group where everyone has the freedom to express their opinions. Exposing someone for their viewpoint on a platform intended for socializing is unnecessary and only worsens whatever transpired in that Discord channel. There are millions of individuals who don’t support LGBTQ+ individuals, whether due to religious beliefs or personal ideologies. Spreading private matters like that and singling out members for their opinions only serves to escalate tensions and provoke conflict. This post serves no purpose other than to incite such.

      You have access to his Discord; you can directly communicate with him to express your disagreement or discomfort. You’re entitled to take any action you see fit within that Discord group. Sharing this here only serves to publicize private conversations.

      If Robert did the same, he would face the same consequences. Randomly expressing disdain for people without any intention of engaging in constructive dialogue but rather to spread hatred would result in the same consequences you faced. His opinion or yours holds no relevance to how individuals should behave on this platform.

      I’m quite baffled on how neutrality is ever a bad thing. You’d wish if Robert did that here, that he would face the consequences, but not yourself.

      What robert did on that discord can potentially lead to him facing consequences here, but you as an user also have the responsibility to be civil and address the problem to Ralph. He would happily yeet the guy with the ban hammer.

      Facing consequences does not equal defamation or spreading drama.

      Discord: challasfrl
      if you wish to actually talk instead of making a scene here.

      If you genuinely believe I should not be a moderator, then I personally will contact Ralph to do some form of community voting. I’ll happily resign if I do not represent the community as it wants.
      That’s the true ideology of how moderating works and democracy on a bigger scale.

      2024-04-21 15:33:46 UTC 1
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        shut up i dont care

        2024-04-21 15:41:58 UTC 8
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        Neutrality is bullshit when there’s a clear right or wrong my guy

        In my view, what makes people “shitty” isn’t solely their opinions, but rather how they impose them on others.

        I’m sorry for my language but Robert has opposed his views on others my guy

        This wasn’t just in some extremely private dm it’s in probably the biggest public Sn group

        It was targeted towards people

        Everyone has a right to have views but not to be an asshole , I know that’s extremely hypocritical of me , argue me on my actions all you want but this is on Robert

        No rules were broken
        The only reason this is escalating currently is because it got flagged
        If pornography is on your no no list , well then why the fuck is Robert still allowed to occasionally horny post 😭
        All the , nsfw figures he makes are laughably bad but where’s the enforcement there dude

        2024-04-21 15:43:33 UTC 14
        • Replying to: 🎄🏳️‍⚧️René (F)🏳️‍⚧️🎄Neutrality is bullshit when there’s a clear right or wrong m

          No rules were broken

          Both you and robert broke rules.
          Robert = hostility
          you = defamation and also hositlity

          All the , nsfw figures he makes are laughably bad but where’s the enforcement there dude

          Where? Don’t see them on the site. I can only enforce the community page properly and in accordance with my time zone.

          I’m sorry for my language but Robert has opposed his views on others my guy

          What you need to understand is that I agree with that and that you should have messaged me on discord so I can tell ralph that he’s being an annoying cuck. But that does not mean you can make posts that are even legally seen as defamation. (Would not be severe enough tho ngl for an actual case, so dont worry xd)

          But please gigan, you have my discord. Message me there if you like. I genuinely do not want to start some shit over some dumb guy’s opinion.

          I agree with what you have been saying. Never have denied that.
          I’m just saying that I can not allow both of y’all to break the rules.

          2024-04-21 15:47:50 UTC 2
          • Replying to: Challas>No rules were broken Both you and robert broke rules. Ro

            First result for defamation

            defamation. noun. de·​fa·​ma·​tion ˌde-fə-ˈmā-shən. 1. : communication to third parties of false statements about a person that injure the reputation of or deter others from associating with that person see also libel, slander, New York Times Co.

            Everything I posted was purely his own messages. This is the furthest thing from defamation
            Defamation would be if I , idk called him a mass shooter murderer or something , I legitimately just posted his own words
            Hostility , yea I’m pressed but I was locking the post before you came in

            I intended to only show others here , his actions
            Almost nobody here shares those views to begin with

            The post was simply made to point his shit out and let everyone know that’s he’s an asshat

            2024-04-21 15:56:25 UTC 13
            • Replying to: 🎄🏳️‍⚧️René (F)🏳️‍⚧️🎄First result for defamation >defamation. noun. de·​fa·​

              Definition of defamation differs from country to country. I’m not speaking on behalf of the USA.
              I’m using my country’s definition of defamation (which doesn’t restrict it only to misinformation).
              So call that one a language barrier.

              Anyways, I’m not gonna turn this into some gangbang as there is no point, nor will I flag or lock these posts. That would be a misuse of my authority here.

              I’m going to be enjoying my last days in France and not going to let a random robert vs gigan drama waste my time (even yours).
              https://sticknodes.com/members/giganshowaera/activity/1654606/
              Look that is a way to inform people without the chance of people starting drama. This would never have been flagged. it’s literally all i was asking. So well done on your behalf, still appreciate it. Although you might find it silly.

              Have a good one!

              2024-04-21 17:42:53 UTC 0
              • Replying to: ChallasDefinition of defamation differs from country to country. I

                Yea it’s silly because it’s still the same post

                2024-04-21 17:45:19 UTC 5
              • Replying to: ChallasDefinition of defamation differs from country to country. I

                Anyways
                Let me be an asshole for a second

                Nobody gives a shit about your vacation , don’t know why you felt the need to mention that other than to flex ? What a dumb fucking move on your end my guy

                2nd , throughout this shit you’ve been doing nothing but wasting time with nonsensical word salads

                3rd at the end of the day nothing changed
                My call out post is still the same , I don’t know why you bothered trying to stand on this hill just to faulter in getting what you wanted

                2024-04-21 17:48:34 UTC 4
                • Replying to: 🎄🏳️‍⚧️René (F)🏳️‍⚧️🎄Anyways Let me be an asshole for a second Nobody gives a s

                  Not pushing this conversation any further because I could not give a shit about you

                  This entire situation was supposed to be for the community but especially for my friends , and i will not waste my time on a fence sitting idiot who feels the need to prance around and flex the fact he’s on vacation or something , get the fuck out of here with that bullshit

                  Your tone throughout this ordeal has been nothing short of condescending and yet you’ve done Jack shit as a moderator , but more importantly as a person , and after this snide fucking last comment , I am legitimately disappointed in you

                  You started this unnecessary bullshit by shoving your head into a place that didn’t need your impeding , and you did nothing at the end of the day but make the situation worse

                  I’m not saying this to say that you should be removed from mod role but you seriously failed your role as a moderator today

                  2024-04-21 17:50:33 UTC 5
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        “There are millions of individuals who don’t support LGBTQ+ individuals, whether due to religious beliefs or personal ideologies.” That’s not really a good argument here. So, by your logic, racism is fine because it’s an extension of millions of people’s ideologies? Regardless of your religion, insulting and looking down on people who have done you no wrong is and always will be a shitty thing to do.

        2024-04-21 15:44:56 UTC 19
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        Also
        Nobody is saying anything about you being a bad mod or needing to be fired

        It’s just genuinely a baffling move on your end since we’ve all honestly taken part in these types of call outs

        I mean shit if you want to get into the meat of it , stuff like epitaph’s banning

        Entirely off site , still affected users here , still negative actions , people still needed to watch out and be wary of him

        Sure it was a worse situation and not one that has to be open at all but the same principles you’ve used on my post fall flat in every situation

        2024-04-21 15:48:11 UTC 12
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        so if like hypothetically…..someone posted a bunch of images on site of me like saying some of the most racist shit imaginable about like….
        let’s say Romanians and like, it’s REALLY racist like, full on, super massacre genocider ultimate nazi death fucker type of shit.

        if they were being really mean about it ummmm…. would i be ok… because they were really mean. I mean yeah they were also exposing me for some of the most racist stuff ever said but like….. they were really mean about it.
        i’d be fine right?

        Also i’m not racist i’m just using myself as an example i’m not racist.
        I’m a little bit racist i’ll admit. but like y’know one of the Fun racists like your uh…. drunk uncle at the party y’know like that type of racist i’m not one of those sad racists like your drunk dad at the party

        2024-04-21 15:50:13 UTC 12
        • Replying to: Larry, Dr Furstralia (LM J)so if like hypothetically.....someone posted a bunch of imag

          damn this joke sucked ass you people need to tell me to shut the fuck up in advance next time

          Moderators please tell me to shut the fuck up in advance next time

          2024-04-21 15:52:08 UTC 6
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        1. There is an off-site behavior rule (thanks to guest for reminding me), which if you don’t want hate speech directed at users, then that rule, plus Roberts behavior, would dictate harmful behavior would it not? Or do you not see transphobia or homophobia as hate speech?

        2. It’s not defamation, im not saying anything false about robert in him being transphobic or homophobic, the only thing im directing to be harmful at robert is my opinion of him. thats not defamation. but i will conceed on it being hate speech, even if i fele justified in doing so

        3. Im not saying im exempt from punishment, ive literally never been against getting banned for anything i do here, whether thats participate in an argument or drama, and give my usually pretty staunch opinions on people and their actions. but punishment should be dealt justly to both parties involved

        4. Robert is allowed to hold his own opinions, as are you, as am I, I agree. But holding his own opinions doesnt make him exempt from criticism or scorn, nor does it make you or I exempt (hey thats why were here!)

        5. Nobody here is asking for you passing of judgement on Robert. All gigan did was give people the information necessary to let people make an informed opinion on Robert behavior, and how that would shape how they interact with him. It’s not defamation, its not slander, its not even exposing private details because this is all in the “Official Sticknodes Discord” something anyone can access from this very site

        6. i know youre implying im a shitty person and im inclined to agree. my way of going about things isnt the best, and i full well acknowledge that.

        2024-04-21 15:53:46 UTC 13
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        my brother in christ defamation is when you spout misinformation about someone to make them look bad this was NOT misinformation what are you yapping about

        2024-04-21 16:03:04 UTC 11
      • Replying to: Challas We've long been aware that your circle of friends holds di

        Do not try to claim that it’s ok for people to hold prejudiced beliefs based on religion. As a trans Catholic, religion has never been homophobic, it has only been used by scum of the earth to attempt to normalize their horrible beliefs

        2024-04-21 16:07:17 UTC 11
    • Why does it matter whether or not it happened off-site?

      Rule IV) Off-Site Behavior
      “While these rules only govern the website of StickNodes.com, your behavior off-site may have an impact on your status here. This includes websites like Discord, Twitter, email, or even real-life. If adequate and reasonable proof is shown of harassment off-site (to be determined by mods/admins), you can expect to face reasonable repercussions” I’d say it’s pretty harmful, seeing as it’s affecting members of the community.

      2024-04-21 15:35:31 UTC 16
    • Real

      2024-04-21 16:12:31 UTC 18
    • I was like that from the start (not porn and sex remarks though) I’m pretty sure I have improved (depends on you guys to decide)

      2024-04-21 23:12:13 UTC 3
    • Looks like someone fell off

      2024-04-22 04:03:06 UTC 3