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What’s y’all’s opinion on Explosive Bullet
Do yall fw him or nah
Me personally I think he has potential but is in that stage where he wants to be praised for every small thing he does or adds into the animation hes making
Like what the fuck desgraça 😭
Also, his desc for the PL episode n4 is interesting like WHO CARES 😭 no one wants to know what mother board you are using, bro. You’re not him you’re they/them by doing that
You lose all aura points by being so corny dawg
I want to think that he’d be a much better sticknodian if he just accepted that he’s not the best and that his animations are cool but lack interest in the viewer
I use an iPad Pro 2024 (1TB, 16GB RAM, WiFi + Cellular, M2 Chip) and NO ONE CARES. And guess what yall
The pc I’m using to make 3D Neoty is 11 years old and can barely run blender. That’s why I’m taking so longSmh, what do yall think?
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@explosivebullet shut up bitch
Bro didn’t waste a moment 😭
Deleted the reply cause I didn’t know Eb was a cuckold like that
I agree a lot. He prides himself wayy to much on “little” details and making unnessisary additions to the animation. Sure it adds realism but now its going to take forever.
Also he tends to have a thick skull. I worked for him before as a consulter/critic for script related things. Whenever something about the animation was amiss or poor you could critique him but then you’d just get a 5 paragraph message on why youre wrong, hes right, and then we wont change.
It peeves me a lot because he does this for accountability, animation, writing and everything.
I pointed out like a LOT of mess ups in his script and most were either blown off or told to ignore it. Like the script would be missing A LOT of details so it felt like I was reading a bulletin board rather than a script. Got told to just work around that when making my critiques, but how can I make a critique about a scene when i know only like 1/3 of the details in said scene?
All of that combined as made me slowly dislike him.
His animations continue to have the same issue, pragraph blocks, TOO MUCH exposistion, no personalities, basic camrea work, bad pacing.
He focuses SO MUCH on details like a bullet you cant even see moving inside of the chamber & barrel of the gun that he is SEVERLY lacking what makes a series good. Bro makes decent animation and calls it a day.
His lack of open mindedness and proper focus will be the ultimate downfall of his series once people look back on it.
I could also go for a LONG time about that “PL details” video like how “EB death stare” was just his OC. No real music ques, camrea shot, no empthisis, just his OC sitting there. Death stare, sure buddy.
But I feel as I’ve said enough.
Lmk if I should re-elaborate or further elaborate on sumthin.
Nvm eb suck my 3rd nutsack
How dare you ignore the ginger goat
Little details like that are part of the charm in my animations. They are nothing to add, why remove them? I don’t get asking for a downgrade here.
Best part is you bring out that I don’t change anything. Solid chunk of stuff you mentioned I changed because you pointed it out. We had a conversation about it and it was never “I’m right your wrong.”
In example, lighting you mentioned was something I could do like how you do it in your animations. I simply explained that lighting and how you do it is not quite up to a standard that would fit my animations (and much like your idea of small details, would take way too much to put into an action packed 30 minute long animation). If I brainlessly followed 100% of your critique, my animations would lose their soul, take 100x longer and lose focus.
There is a level of critique you can work with and another part which you as the artist should dismiss. You mentioned the lack of detail in the script itself and I made changes there. Never heard if the changes were enough but I made them.
I also mentioned I kept things vague for a creative reason. See how it turns out visually and go from there to see if it works.
Absolutely agree that anything I did before episode 3 had hardly any thought and dialogue consisted of text walls. I fixed that several years ago.
The one thing people told me come episode 4 was that it was actually interesting. They directly said that the episodes before it were underwhelming with episode 3 being the outlier being more interesting, less dialogue, no text walls, more action.
Never in the details video did I have a scene of a stare as a detail. Most I had was bits of subtle body language that for characters without a face is essential.
Really don’t know what you are on about.
I also gave you critique on a lot of things, much of which you never improved or fixed. Yet I never held a grudge against you. Never blamed you for it and never took it as you shoveling it off to the side as I get how prioritizing works. I still won’t take that approach.
You are better than that.
Wasn’t my video. That was someone else who put that into his video as a joke.
Wasn’t a legitimate detail and never pointed out as a legit detail.
Yes his video was in my video to show what he picked up on, but I wasn’t gonna bother modifying his video.
Funny of you to say “you’re better than that” after dissing him
I called out garbage he was spewing. Not an insult or anything disrespecting him.
Saying “you are better than that simply” says he has shown he is a better person before, but is not showing that now.
Don’t know what you are trying to get at.
shut up you replied to the wrong idiot
Alr lets break this down.
Little details like that are part of the charm in my animations. They are nothing to add, why remove them? I don’t get asking for a downgrade here.
It functionally wont be a downgrade. Its common animator law that there is no point in animating something you cant see. Lighting and graphics is something you see CONSTANTLY. Not for “Particular scenes” It goes with every scene because thats how it works irl. Just like you say you want it to be realistic as possible Also no it doesn’t remove details or obstruct the scene, you just gotta learn how to do it right.
I simply explained that lighting and how you do it is not quite up to a standard that would fit my animations (and much like your idea of small details, would take way too much to put into an action packed 30 minute long animation). If I brainlessly followed 100% of your critique, my animations would lose their soul, take 100x longer and lose focus
I have done a whole 5 min animation with the most quality lighting and visuals in a few weeks (Cornflakes s.2 Ep.2). Granted your animation style is less cartoony so it could take an additional month at most for 5 mins. BUT you have an entire animation team with you making these so its 100% feasible.
You mentioned the lack of detail in the script itself and I made changes there. Never heard if the changes were enough but I made them. I also mentioned I kept things vague for a creative reason
You just contradicted yourself. I critiqued that the script should be FULL and DETAILED but then you go and say that you still kept it vauge for “creative reasons”. It dose not matter its to make a change in the story later or to recon something. The script should always be completed to the rim. No expectations. I have no clue what the “creative reasons” could be but it is no excuse to deliver a script thats underbaked.
Absolutely agree that anything I did before episode 3 had hardly any thought and dialogue consisted of text walls. I fixed that several years ago.
Thats not the issue. Breaking the texts into smaller chunks does not fix the scene. When writintg diolouge and exposistion its best to cut ALL the fat off and even cut some muscle off too in order to make the exposistion/discussion scenes as short and sweet as possible WHILE delivering realistic, compelling dialogue between characters all at the same time. Its a delicate balancing act that crumbles every time.
Having the characters speak in shorter chunks do not fix the issue. An 5 minute long talking scene of yours can easily be cut down to 45sec to 1.5 min and deliver the message in a more compelling way. Before you say thats not possible or its too hard, it is, if I went what would be originally said in my animations before I cut down the fat No One Ch.6 would be 25 minutes. I cut off a whole 10 minutes to deliver all the messages in the best and clean way possible.
The one thing people told me come episode 4 was that it was actually interesting.
It was more interesting and clean but all of the issue still stand. The main thing I can say is “better” is the animation. Its slightly less stiff. There still diouloge, pacing, characterization issues still stand and have a chokehold on the series.
Never in the details video did I have a scene of a stare as a detail.
For this I’m also gonna reference the further messages around this claim.
While back you were lacking in motivation and asked people to point out the details and appreciate it. You even made a channel in your discord server called “detail appreciation” and a person made that video.
What I’m wondering is what part of that was a “joke” cause everything was played very seriously and was pretty unfunny.
(The details video will be linked)
I also gave you critique on a lot of things, much of which you never improved or fixed.
I have improved, quite rapidly.
Look at No One Chapter 3, (Sometime after PL3 came out) bad animation, dialogue and everything and then compare that to Cornflakes s2 ep2. (Sometime after PL4) The animation, characters, visuals, dialogue has improved MASSIVLY. Now with your animation it has functionally barley improved. The most I can say is that its slightly smoother. Thats it. Every single other issue has and still is there.
So for you to turn this onto me and telling me to do better is honestly so baffling and insulting. Take a good look at yourself.
The most appreciated animations out there are the most detailed. I don’t add details that nobody sees. All the small details I see in full speed and it comes together to create a solid animation. The idea you don’t see it is just wrong. People catch this stuff as the animation plays live and it just adds to existing quality.
On shadows, you have done it in all of your animations and I don’t feel like how it is used on characters has ever worked that well. Shading bleeds off edges to a glaring degree. You also do it with heavy use of ATF. That stuff all combined makes it easier to do in your animations not even including simpler figures with less limbs to track. Yet with all that I along with a couple other people agree that it just doesn’t work. A dabbled in what you did back in Episode 1 and there I knew it wouldn’t translate.
That is why I keep lighting more basic and limited to static subjects in the scene. Hell I experimented in Episode 4 and ran into an issue of versatility.
There is no contradiction. You are thinking in black and white.
I added more about the action into the script which I have in many areas followed. However finer details like how a bullet bounces off a combat bot aren’t included. Scripts at their core are supposed to deal with dialogue. Creative reasons means nothing more than finding out what can be done here and what can’t. Everything I do normally ends up being an experiment.
On dialogue, I ain’t tracking. Breaking things apart is absolutely false and has been since 3. I know that because I have always checked if dialogue can be said in the amount of time it is on screen for. If it is written right, length is not that much of a concern.
I could go on from here but that’s beyond any point here.
We are losing the plot of the real issue here. There’s multiple things I would like to figure out with you.
Biggest one is the ego thing and where you got that, especially when you sat there when episode 4 released and gave praise. Now it’s “barely improved,” so what changed?
Everyone was telling me it was a giant improvement over the last in every way. Suddenly now that isn’t the case with you specifically.
And you pat yourself on the back for your own animation, comparing yours to mine then accuse me of ego.
Nothing adds up here and theres a problem beyond “lack of improvement” and “ego.” You and I need to discuss as I don’t got a clue what you are on about and how you are reaching so hard on everything you say. This is all shit I should have heard of months ago. Either you haven’t been speaking your mind, or you there is some major misunderstanding.
I am partial to keeping things civil and discussing what is going on as this isn’t like you.
I am partial to keeping things civil and discussing what is going on as this isn’t like you.
Things have been civil, I have been very straight forward and genuinely mean what I say, its not personal. Never was personal.
About the lighting, just as I’ve said before, my style is simpler and frankly easier, I never denied that not only that said that aloud. As mentioned you have an entire team and I did say it would add maybe a month per scene. But one reason why PL takes so long to make is because for a lot of it close to zero pogress was being made other than things here and there. The most detailed are the most appriciated sure but what I’m saying is that you have extreme tunnel vision. Youre so focused on these lil things that you are forgetting about so much more about what makes a series good like good character personalization, better dialogue thats also way less chunky, better visuals, better pacing, better story structuring. Your series has close to any of that and makes it a boring watch, only thing thats enjoyable is the action just because its action but that can only do so much in the grand scheme of things.
This is advice I am trying to give you.
There is no contradiction.
There is, a script is meant to be full and complete with details, you said it was complete. Then you also said you still left out details. That directly contradicts what you say. Its still not complete then.
However finer details like how a bullet bounces off a combat bot aren’t included.
Youre missing the entire point again. Things like establishing shots, details on the scenery so anyone who reads it has an idea of the location and what is even going on.
know that because I have always checked if dialogue can be said in the amount of time it is on screen for.
Its not just about how long its on screen for but the fact that there still soo much fat in the dialogue that can be severely cut down to just a few sentences. Its apart of the reason why I say the series is boring most times.
you sat there when episode 4 released and gave praise.
Yes I did and still do somewhat, it had improved but barley, and back then I was way more inexperienced with writing and storytelling than I am now. Views can change over the years. Lots of people thought the SN Movie was good back then but everyone agrees its bad and boring now.
And you pat yourself on the back for your own animation, comparing yours to mine then accuse me of ego.
Again youre missing the point. I was able to improve so much over the years just in the span of you making an episode but comparatively there was only minor improvements. I never claimed once that my animation is better. I even said that it is in fact janky. Idk where you got this idea where I said my animation is better than yours. I have fully said that is it in fact not.
Nothing adds up here and theres a problem beyond “lack of improvement” and “ego.”
What are you talking about, I have been very straight forward, there is no anterior motives. I want to see your series succeed. It has great protentional to be one of the greatest stories every told in SN but theres so much its lacking.
This is all shit I should have heard of months ago.
Why the cursing, you said lets be civil? I have spoken my mind many times and time and time again my advice was blown off and once again it is.
You made a comment with an insult right off the bat.
“Also he tends to have a thick skull”
You then make paddle an idea that I am egotistical and that you slowly started to dislike me over these things. You never had any sign of that and never relayed it to me. You relayed it to other people in a slanderous way right off a comment that should have never been made pointing out trivial things that boil down to a lack of understanding as to why it is there.
None of that is civil. However you have a change in tone in your post here. I will respect that.
A script is not screenplay. I always was typing scripts in the sense of getting the bones down and building on it. They actually are not supposed to be full. A script tells you what the dialogue is and the actions in the scene on a basic level, a screenplay tells you how exactly the scene will play out in detail. You probably were looking for screenplay. You however never told me that wasn’t enough.
I too could honestly say 100% of the things you say about PL toward your series. It is all anecdotal.
Sitting there and giving praise then saying it “barely improved and was boring” is on par with giving Rise of Skywalker for improving on the Last Jedi praise.
A critic is critical.
You are still missing the issue here though. You had a thing about ego and aren’t addressing that.
And yes, SN movie absolutely had a honeymoon phase. In the early days of SN it was impressive for the time, but dated later. Epitaph and his inserts of fetishes we all blew off as just Epitaph being Epitaph. Now that we know who he is as a person, that perspective changes because it was worse than that.
PL Episode 1 had that same issue minus fetishes. PL Episode 2 fixed many issue and set the tone right, but like anything there is still issues.
Episode 3 cleared all that and more. I can still watch episode 3 and enjoy the action of it.
Episode 4 was a tremendous improvement at every corner. The feedback was overwhelmingly positive and still is. The issues with it remain with the episodes before it not holding up. Episode 4 on it’s own is a solid episode with actual meaningful dialogue.
Episode 4 was a giant change. Audio work was bumped up to 11, visuals were bumped up , writing also. There is issues with 4 that I can improve on, but you are basically giving me “what I make improved exponentially and what you made improved fractionally.”
I can’t do jack with that. Critique ain’t my issue here though.
It’s the fact you act as if I threw all of what you gave away. And then the fact you do exactly what you accuse me of. Acting as if your story is good and general series is interesting.
The author doesn’t decide that. The viewer does.
“I want to see your series succeed. It has great protentional to be one of the greatest stories every told in SN but theres so much its lacking.”
This is a nice thing to say and if you worked with this, you wouldn’t have as much of an issue. But if you really meant this, you wouldn’t be pulling this “EB is egotistical thing.”
So I will give you chance to prove this otherwise. On fresh posts you gotta point this stuff out. Continue with the tone you got now and we can figure this stuff out how it should have been in the first place.
Now that you have labeled me as egotistical and acted as if I never took any critique, you have lost my respect but I would like to see you change that. Slander is something that sets me off and if you are thinking of apologizing, don’t. I want to see what you have improve and you want to see what I have improve.
Lets find common ground here. Start from scratch, and deliver our critiques as they should be delivered.
We’re on different points here and aren’t going to get anywhere so let’s lock this down and get to the critique of each others stuff properly.
You win and I win.
You made a comment with an insult right off the bat.
“Also he tends to have a thick skull”Exactly my point. I have explicitly said it’s not personal many times. I meant it literally.
And do you brush off any critique and advice still. You haven’t taken a single peice of it through the entire discussion.
egotistical and that you slowly started to dislike me over these things
No, it would be petty to personally dislike you for these things but it is so frustrating to see something and someone with so much potential to get such crazy tunnel vision that they negelet the rest of what makes a series good.
You never had any sign of that and never relayed it to me.
That’s because ITS. NOT. PERSONAL.
You relayed it to other people in a slanderous way right off a comment that should have never been made pointing out trivial things that boil down to a lack of understanding as to why it is there.
What are you even talking about in this?
None of that is civil. However you have a change in tone in your post here. I will respect that.
I have been civil, just very firm. I’m not usually this firm but I got to be. I saw that I was perhaps too firm and you couldn’t see that I was being civil. None of this is agressive/malicious.
They actually are not supposed to be full.
Huh?!?! It was missing things when compared to any other script. I’ve elaborated on that many times.
I stand by what I said.
A script tells you what the dialogue is and the actions in the scene on a basic level, a screenplay tells you how exactly the scene will play out in detail. You probably were looking for screenplay. You however never told me that wasn’t enough.
Perhaps there is miscommunication. I use screenplay/script interchangeably. That’s an problem on my part. Mixed up some words. Apologies.
(This don’t mean I’m apologizing for everything else. I stand by it all.)
I too could honestly say 100% of the things you say about PL toward your series. It is all anecdotal.
What’s the point of even saying that? I made a critique of your series, giving genuine advice and it seems you’re so offended.
Sitting there and giving praise then saying it “barely improved and was boring”
I already elaborated on that and you completly ignored what I said.
As I said in my last message.
‘Yes I did and still do somewhat, it had improved but barley, and back then I was way more inexperienced with writing and storytelling than I am now. Views can change over the years. Lots of people thought the SN Movie was good back then but everyone agrees its bad and boring now.’
You are still missing the issue here though. You had a thing about ego and aren’t addressing that.
You’re right I waited a bit to mention that to prove my point. Throughout all of this you accused me of having personal alterior motives, constantly brush off any critique that isn’t some sort of tiny animated detail. Once again forgetting the bigger picture on what makes a series good. Also have shown that you have taken offense to what I said and had gotten pissed. Everything you’ve been doing shows that your ego is hurt.
I cannot say this enough. It’s not personal I’m being genuine. This is critique and advice.
Epitaph and his inserts of fetishes we all blew off as just Epitaph being Epitaph.
There’s no point in mentioning that. That’s beyond the point. It’s about the honeymoon phase that there was over the series. Not what he did. This is beyond the point.
but like anything there is still issues.
Glad you can admit that. Are you going to do anything about it though?
The feedback was overwhelmingly positive and still is.
Of course it is. Everything I’m not saying is to discredit it but to point it out as missing potential. But people saying something is good don’t mean ALL of it is good.
I got told that my No One series, before I rebooted it, was very good. Looking back personally, I *HAATTE* my No One episodes.
Don’t get lost by a bunch of people saying it’s good. Their right thats is good and clearly effort was put but that don’t mean all of it is.
This whole paragraph is basically saying “No, I did put effort in it and others agree. The animation and audio is better” Once again you’re brushing off everything.
with actual meaningful dialogue.
No. Its still bad here, if you want a futher detailed breakdown and critique on how to make it better I’d be glad to tell you again but I would like it if you took the advice seriously. Whenever people give genuine advice you blow it off ALOT.
but you are basically giving me “what I make improved exponentially and what you made improved fractionally.”
Yes I am. Thats the point. I was able to improve so much in that amount of time and by comparasion there was little improvments. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I am objectily saying my animation is better. Once again man I never claimed that.
I’m saying that if I can improve, so can you.
It’s the fact you act as if I threw all of what you gave away.
You did. Not just me other people too.
And then the fact you do exactly what you accuse me of. Acting as if your story is good and general series is interesting.
So youre just flat out saying my series is not good or generally interesting. Personal insults are not civil. Stop thinking this is personal. Its just ignorance at this point. Thats why I said you have a thick skull earlier. It wasnt an insult. Its a genuine critique.
The author doesn’t decide that. The viewer does.
This is extremely wrong. Movies can be objectively VERY good and the viewer thinks its ass.
But someone can think something is bad WHILE ALSO knowing and acknowledging that its a objectively good peice of media.
I dont like watching some media that I know is a genuinly good peice of art but just isnt my taste.
So the author DOES decide if its good. The idea that the author doesn’t is blatantly wrong. If you put enough effort in. Learn enough about writing and personalization, any idea can be made into an Oscar worthy film.
But if you really meant this, you wouldn’t be pulling this “EB is egotistical thing.”
I absolutely meant both. Two things can be true at once.
I do want to see your series succeed. Why else would I be giving paragraph after paragraph of critiques?
The reason why I say its ego is because the constant brushing off of advice from anyone. The fact you used an insult thinking I’m doing that when its literal advice shows youre being ignorant. The fact that you even said yourself you are pissed off here. All of that displays exactly what I’m saying.
we can figure this stuff out how it should have been in the first place.
I would love to give adivce but time and time again you’ve proven you don’t listen. I have given advice in the first place.
Now that you have labeled me as egotistical and acted as if I never took any critique, you have lost my respect but I would like to see you change that.
Absolutely not. I stand by what I said and forever will.
Slander is something that sets me off and if you are thinking of apologizing, don’t.
The fact other people got extra pressed is their problem for not approaching it in a more peaceful way, I am. Don’t blame me for the actions of other whom I got zero connection to. Other people slander, I’m not. Dont confuse me with them. It should be obvious.
Stop thinking I’m slandering you. Stop thinking its personal. ITS NOT. I’ve said this plenty of times now.
and deliver our critiques as they should be delivered.
I have been. No other way to say it, to explain again I’d just be re explaining what I already said many times before.
We’re on different points
What point are you on? The only one I’ve seen is that I’m wrong about everything I’m saying from you.
You win and I win.
This surprises me, its not a competition.
I am also done with this. I’ve said my peice, elaborated on my points and the reasonings and gave reasons for those reasonings to prove my point and I’ve fully come full circle.
This is where I stop replying. For me to reply again is to instigate.
I do hope for the best for you and I hope you can realize whats wrong.
I don’t think that he’s narcissistic I think he just does it for the funnies or smt
I don’t think so bro 😭 you should see how he talks on discord he’s wildin
ok yeah I was wrong 💀
FOR REALL
s…..smt?
Shin megami tensei???????
I’ve not kept up with him or his work in what feels like years.
It’s somewhat disappointing and amusing to see these ‘ legends ‘ fall from grace usually because of ego, it’s one thing to have faith in yourself and your work but it’s another to continually put yourself on a pedestal.
Pride’s gonna be the death of you, and you and me
Preach
Part of where I don’t like ranking people. Whenever people ask me questions that include a pedestal, I have a hard time ranking any of that stuff.
It is always way more complicated than one being better than another.
It’s not to say these ‘ legends ‘ as I mentioned have that status because they are greater than your average user, it just so happens to be a point of reference for how prominent they are and what namesake they have established for themself.
Well aware what you meant. Just worth pointing out I agree with what you have to say.
The fact you kept things vague makes you a shining light in this community and I don’t have any issue with what you say here, cause I see it.
I think I fuck with this level of personal criticism
As someone who loves PCs, I like it but I do understand that it’s out of context and not for everyone.
biggest inspiration for me with my figures by far, wouldn’t have gotten into stick nodes without his figures. so yeah fuck that guy
Lmao. Some interesting stuff here, but pointing out specs in a description among devices used and all that is so silly and petty.
It ain’t that deep. I put it in the description because people ask me that stuff all the time. Doing that simply just spares me listing this stuff everytime someone asks. So yeah people do care, and if you don’t, it ain’t there for you.
Besides, out of all my personal flaws, ego ain’t one of them. I absolutely take pride in what I do which is what drives me forward, but that doesn’t mean I let it get out of hand.
I have exponential improvement in each of my animations because I am always listening to new ideas and critiques on my stuff and I actually take that stuff seriously. Just spent a week trying to fix up some problems with one of my WIP projects because people told me there were some things that could be done better. Hell I still think I could do better on them, though I always am balancing whether it is worth fixing now or leaving that improvement till later.
Don’t got a clue where anyone gets the idea that I think I am the best. Numerous occasions I have sat there and admitted some things people do are beyond my capabilities. Like I can’t pull off 360 degree figures like other people can do. It ain’t my speciality. I can’t nail effects like the no tween animators can where they can seamlessly put in a premade explosion into their animation. Everything I do I have pointed out there is drawbacks and there is benefits. The positive feedback I get on things tell me that people like my balance. The critiques that hint at possible improvements tell me how I can hone what I do right even further. There is critiques I openly dismiss but for a reason beyond ego. Sometimes I mention that it is something I personally can’t put effort into beyond other things or it is out of my capabilities. I got all the tools in my hands but not all the knowhow for many things.
Giant miss on this ego thing too is the fact for years I have sat here and said PL Episode 1 ain’t great. What am I doing right now? Remaking it because everyone was of the same opinion, and those people of that opinion have further shifted my idea on how to improve it with their ideas.
It ain’t wrong to shoot for creating the best possible animation. But while I aim for that, I’m not ignorant to the fact there is areas my animations still fall short.
Part of where I brought other people in to help with my projects was that I knew I couldn’t deal with everything alone. A blunt admission that I wasn’t the best at every corner. So I don’t know where you are getting the idea that I am egotistical.
I am wide open to conversation however and don’t mind discussing stuff as nothing gets fixed without it. Nothing pisses me off more than people delivering criticism to me behind my back. If it’s a problem you observe with me, I would rather you deliver it right to my face. I can’t make any changes without hearing about it. But at least keep it real and not dip into childish rants about trivial stuff.
you could critique him but then you’d just get a 5 paragraph message on why youre wrong, hes right, and then we wont change.
lmao man, love you and your figures but the joke tells itself.
Lmao, yeah. The paragraphs for a tonne of accusations like that warrant it. I was well aware that was gonna be pointed out but you have 3 paragraphs of random mudslinging, you will will get 6 in response.
I care not about the one known by the monkier bullet of explosives
some of yall gotta think before you post
like is this really worth all the shit its gonna stir up (or has already)
and gigan shut up
I mean, EB quite frankly said that if he groomed children / pulled an epitaph nothing would happen
I think that’s not cool vro
what kind of drugs do you have to take in order to even try to make this kind of statement
Now where the hell does that come from?
Let’s put that into context of what I actually said.
All I said is you people wouldn’t have gone after me as hard if I did what Epitaph did. I have done jack shit to piss people off this past bit but ones like yourself insist on digging up shit from the time of Abraham and distorting things that are said. There is never rational discussion with you miserable people.
Motherfucker you literally said “I swear I could’ve pulled and epitaph and started grooming kids” LIKE WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN YOUR MIND 😭 you’re just fucking insane to even say that at all
Words cannot express how disgusted and shocked I felt as soon as I saw that like what the fuck even compelled you to say that out of all things??
My friend, you made a post out of nowhere attacking me on trivial things you don’t understand and labeled me as egotistical. I did nothing and you attacked me. If I were Epitaph, I would not have been attacked as hard as you attacked me over a decription detail and this fabrication that I am egotistical. Grooming kids is messed up and wrong, thats why I used that example. You are doing gymnastics around a point.
Did you just say that being egotistical is worse than being a pedophile 💀 you’re not helping your case bro you’re the one doing gymnastics
Never did I once said you were egotistical, not that I remember
If I did please show me the proof and I’ll formally apologise
Nowhere did I say that. You gotta be trolling with that comprehension.
You never directly said I am egotistical but the words “praised for everything he does” is basically that.
Fair enough then, you never directly said that being egotistical is worse than being a pedophile but the words “ I swear I could’ve pulled an epitaph and started grooming kids and they wouldn’t have suddenly turned against me, I’m lost.” Is basically that
im confused so are you trying to say that youd be attacked for being “egotistical” before youd get called out for grooming kids by (at the very least) this facet of the community? that comparison doesnt really work because its blatantly untrue and has been proven false, except by epifag and his jerk off club. i know this is a little small thing to focus on but, youre just wrong
Oh brother you call me a cancer yet don’t know why I’ve gone after people ?
Yea a ton of times , in the past especially I’ve gonna after shrivel dicked idiots but don’t act like this community isn’t ravenous against pedophiles 😭
This is also to clear a point about my supposed biases towards friends , you may not believe me but I legitimately do pride my friend group in actively calling out each other when we fuck up
When many of us in the past truly fucked up , when Robert was out there sending shit to minors or radon genuinely being a kid fiddler , when skele was out and about defending the most prolific pedohpile since Epitpah or a dog fucker
It’s all on the table , don’t paint me or anyone else here as some dick riding apologist when you don’t even have the foresight to know your little dead brain comparison is the biggest load of horse shit possible
I wasn’t around enough when Epitpah fell , I was here to see him in the site a few times and to me he suddenly got banned , only a bit after did I learn about his actions (and I’m even friends with one of the victim.. , not that being a friend would clear me instantly of any opposing view but alas)
If you touched kids I would’ve made sure I did whatever I could to get your ass out of here 😭
bit of a wild proposal but i think this reply may have started some of the aggression in this argument xd
Nothing I said was unwarranted
man acted like a wuss
And you act like a cancer on this community. You defend people based on who your friends are rather than what is right. You see drama and you fan the flames. You brought my attention to this post in a joking manner and I don’t think you are capable of ever reading a room because of that.
Every time someone is smeared out of nowhere, you chime in on that. How many of my close friends have ditched this whole site specifically because of you. With a comment like that, it shows that you are the problem. Not a thing was warranted here, it is petty shit that is 120% misunderstanding stuff I do.
I have given you the benefit of the doubt time and time again that you are better than what people say you are. You have lost that time and time again.
This isn’t acting like a wuss. This is approaching a problem head on. Have I been one to throw an insult? No, I have remained classy the whole time so I can figure out what the real issue is with me.
What do you mean you haven’t insulted anyone you literally just called gigan a cancer 😭
Fair point.
I’m a little pissed and I can stay beyond what Gigan does. However, much if it still applies and even though you aren’t the one to talk about insults, a point is a point.
Hey man no need to be pissed, just be careful with what you say cause people (including me) can think it’s really weird man
At the end of the day this entire discussion is because of how your series could improve bro
The last sentence is wrong. You said 0 about how I could improve things.
You threw mud about a thing I put in descriptions and brought up this idea that I want to be praised for every individual thing because I apparently think I am the best at everything?
I could only think so from the #detail-appreciation in your server
It’s basically a free roam for mfs to be like
Omg! I love the reflection on that one scene where they’re walking! I don’t care that the walks are uneven and don’t have good momentum, but I love the reflections!
Also look
Miata ritual heheh
When I made that, I made it to kick off seeing what people could catch in my animations, then drive some appreciation to work beyond what I do. When I made the channel, I mentioned that was the intention.
And you act like a cancer on this community. You defend people based on who your friends are rather than what is right. You see drama and you fan the flames. You brought my attention to this post in a joking manner and I don’t think you are capable of ever reading a room because of that.
Shitting on you alone completely debunks this point
We’ve never been friends of course but you were a big inspiration coming into this community , but seeing you act like such a loser , like man wtf am I supposed to react with 😭.
I’ve already said before but friends are not free from criticism
Thoughts and Damon , yea it’s stupid to call you out , out of nowhere to start shit up but I don’t disagree with them on their actions
I don’t even agree with all their criticisms of you but you’ve acted quite uh , not classy
You can’t even describe yourself without committing self brown nosing , you’re not classy or calm with this and it’s best you drop the act cause it’s just sadder after seeing how frustrated this has made you 😭
I saw your drama and thought you were pathetic , like what you expect me to donate a gift basket to you man ? Whether you’ve been a wuss or not I FEEL like you’ve been a wuss , so I stated that you’ve acted like one
I’m not gonna “read the room” when the situation is anything but serious , this is fucking stupid lmao
And yea I’m gonna chime in I am here , I’m part of this site
You’re bitching on your server about me needing a few good words and people are CHIMING IN
That’s how people work bullet , I know you’re more comfortable around cock suckers but people are gonna pick and chose to speak , not speak , chose what side to speak on a matter , etc
I’m sorry I didn’t stay silent for your bitch ass but I don’t really plan on glazing anyone 😭
I don’t give a shit if you’ve given me the benefit of the doubt or whatever , I’m not one to care
You are acting like a wuss
Some of your replies are , grounded , and the overall criticisms you’ve gotten are free to be ignored by you , I disagree with thoughts and Damon , when it comes to their points being made against you
I do think they’re good and constructive criticisms but I don’t think you declining the points they gave is evil on your end
I just think your reaction and overall attitude towards these situations is utterly pathetic
Oh and uh , as for the whole “my friends left this site because of you”
good , I’ve seen how your insufferable group acts
you can chalk it up to being solely behind closed doors all you want , you nor your mutts are much of a positive force across the community
You can say what you want about me but my friends have done nothing but chill out , the community I’ve grown into is nothing short of , minding it’s own business
You might have your own personal golden age in this site , but if there’s any cancer here to be noted , it’s the one that can’t handle coming to terms with itself and its pitfalls
I know I’ve been garbage , pure garbage at times across this site and I do regret many actions
I still act like an ass (calling you a wuss and such lol) but you are not gonna act like a good two shoes wilted away by some blighted disease
I can nut up and say I’ve been an asshole here but you can’t even go one reply to me without noting yourself to be the classy one you fucking goober 😭
I have much shame and sympathy towards people I’ve affected over the past few years but do not expect your bitching to bring any sympathy and care from my end
I don’t label myself anything of classy. I maybe started but I will admit people like you have pulled me off of that.
There is one point you made which you got something on.
I could approach this better. What started off as confusion at where this stuff has gone nowhere.
You said you saw there is an issue with this post and the likes towards it. However I don’t think I have said anything that strays from the idea of “where are people getting this idea.”
Could go on and I still got issues with you and how you approach things. But we will figure that out in time.
As of right now I will work on what you mentioned.
I am still confused where the ego thing and trivial stuff comes from.
you chappy ass lead poisoned bile bag you called yourself classy 😭
I never intended for my part in this to be some lesson for you I just legitimately think you’re quite pathetic , maybe this was a one time thing but yikes dawg
All I’m saying is i understand why you and many other cuckolds across this community view me as a cretin
But if you can’t see your flaws here when quite a handful of people dog piled you for it , then that’s on you to look inwards
Hmm. Maybe I mentions that at some point here, but I am catching that stuff now and as you point it out, I happily retract.
People dog piling is purely all how this OP presents itself.
But lets wrap it up.
Late but
Seriously look inwards for once
Don’t just tell yourself you’re looking inwards , genuinely examine yourself from different standpoints
Across your replies and especially against Damon you’ve come off as an arrogant loser
I could give less of a shit if you grow and change but uh , don’t bitch if it happens again lol
There’s a reason this “unnecessary post” chain wasn’t even started by someone who you deem cancerous , it was made by someone with quicker feet than brains but still a good outlook towards others
Couldn’t say it better.
A post like this does nothing else than to smear another person. It doesn’t matter who sees a smear piece on them like this, but when they see people jumping on a post like this out of nowhere while being of a positive mindset for the community, it hurts. Not just that person but the bond the community has.
I have tried to move on and work with other people, but people like this never allow that.
i love eating cinderblocks
I don’t really care for EB and he’s said some things I don’t like and I don’t know if he’s handled the criticism the best but you know in hindsight this post was kind of dumb maybe, really it just stirs shit up for no reason, i imagine you could’ve told EB your critique not in a public forum or something
Maybe I’m wrong but it just seems like a dumb post to make really, pointless and shit I guess? I dunno I always think it’s best to ignore people you don’t like, unless they are being actively harmful (crimes, bullying, etc) since starting something pointless is just a waste of time really or makes you a bit of a dick, mostly anyway, there are edge cases
Anyway uhhh yeah
I asked people for thoughts and they gave, did not know it would be this bad 😭
Fair, but still, the post just feels pointless and kind of rude? Maybe EB “deserves” it but like, eh I dunno, I just wouldn’t make a thing about it, maybe in a setting where it makes sense to give criticism this would’ve been alright (if presented well and not in a mean spirited fashion), and I don’t know if a public forum is the best place, you know? Just my views tho I guess
Oh yeah well I feel you, he is a notable community member tho I was mostly curious on what people thought of him and I also gave my view
I see, fair, even still though I just don’t think it was the best decision, but what can you do, what’s done is done
i think the whole “oh just ignore them” mentality is dumb when i have a peoblem with someone i feel they ought to know it, should it have been on the site (even if it was a “whats your opinion” which ultinately was bound to lead to criticism we all know that, anyway) but ignoring people, or giving up my space instead of telling people i dont like them, isnt gonna solve anything for me. does this all aplly to this situation, no, and could (and should) have it been handled in a different way, yeah whatever, but nah, people wont change unless you let them know how you feel. whether they change or not is a different story
Fair, I agree with your statement, I guess I’m just thinking if nothing will change, I’m not one to put effort to it I guess, but that is mostly a me thing
I was also mostly thinking on harmless things, that one would ignore
I just feel like that, there is a right and wrong way to voice such problems, and I don’t think this post was the best way to do such, was my main point
i personally do fw him, cool guy, cool animator,
though some of the points made in this specific post were, atleast in my eyes, nitpicky and worded in a way that could very well instigate drama or tension as what’s happening at the moment
looking through the threads rn and it is a real s___tshow, but my current thoughts of him are that he’s just a regular guy on sticknodes making pretty nice stuff
totally forgot EB existed tbch but c’mon man
putting your specs in the description is one thing, putting the specs of half of the shit you don’t use for your animations is another and he was overdoing it.
i genuinely don’t like people pleasers (even though im one myself) or people who go so far out of their way just for praise on every little thing they do, who of which would be a people pleaser
if he continued making the same mistakes in every animation of his as an ‘artistic choice’, honestly I’m at a loss for words
you can’t just call everything an artistic choice, there’s a fine line between bending the boundaries and completely tearing down that wall
take for example, unity and harmony in the principles of art
if you just took little unity, it’s going to be repetitive and bland
too much unity has no variety, and again is repetitive
however, harmony is what bends that boundary, harmony adds variety to a piece
too much harmony is more of just becoming either a style or a mistake
EB, if you’re seriously upset by people critiquing your animations and you as a peer then you should probably stay off of the internet for a while until you’re stable
ive never seen anyone get so mad over people criticizing them as people
no one is attacking you can’t say much on gigans part but dude, one to one, joking about grooming isn’t fucking ohkay
making jokes about ‘no one can touch me, if I was epitaph i wouldn’t be cancelled’ is strangely foreshadowing and fucking weird.
you have no idea how many kids on here or that you’ve talked to who have been victims of dv, sa, or just groomed. it’s a really depressing thing to make a joke about.
speaking as someone whose been groomed multiple times, it fucking sucks and you will NEVER, EVER have the right to joke about doing that to someone.
you’re digging your own grave and we’re burying you alive.
deal with it
None of this is about critique. If this was a post soley on “this could be improved.” I would not have an issue, I would love it.
This post is an issue as it is straight slander and gives nothing other than to paint someone in a bad light.
Tell me what part of thoughts’s discussion did not tell you what to improve vro
You are not Thoughts. Your post has nothing.
Thoughts has plenty but it doesn’t tackle the issue of where the ego idea and not handling critique comes from. It is completely off topic and isn’t what I am looking for at the moment.
My post does have something, I still don’t know how many bong rips you had to take to think that it would be appropriate to compare what’s going on in this situation to what would happen (in your opinion) if you were to groom children
And you even have the audacity to think that IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN NOW.
That alone is unreasonable and unexplainable
You know that for many years people have talked about you having unnecessary details in your animations, that if you were to remove they would look better on the actual animation side.
For what cannot be seen, mustn’t be animated or added in. It’s common animator law.
Pixar animators back then didn’t do a full body for a sequence that only shows the upper half of the character did they?
You’re being so stupid if you think that this is an orchestrated attack 😭 no one cares about fucking with you that much vro
you really obsessed with miatas huh
They’re my hyper fixation. I love Miata’s, and my fiancée loves them too (she’s at gunpoint)
She gave me this toy Miata which I named wilson in honour to the ball in “Cast Away” LO SIENTO WILSON!
Needless to say, that ring has been on waitlist a long time ago…
i’d send a miata related video here but im not sure if it would embed
PLASE. USE STREAMBKE TO SEND FICEOS WHERE IS MIATA??
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Can we be best friends.
ALSO WHAT GAME IS THAT
AND THANK YOUS
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sure, the game is gran turismo 4
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