• @gamingdemonfox
    Ive been working on the arch vs you fight lately.

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  • Everyone the drama has severely affected Epitaph and that he refuses to come back till what he asks actually happens ask Epitaph to be nice, don’t tell him to stop attacking people before the conflict, tell him as it happens or just before. Get him to calm down or stop before the other can respond. Tell him that what he’s doing is wrong and that he promised to chill. (I accidentally deleted the last post)

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    • Self control is something he needs to learn, he can’t just expect people to calm him down or try and stop him cause he’s Epitaph. That’s not right and it’s not fair

      2018-12-09 11:43:15 UTC 0
    • Deadass though “rather than telling me myself to do it” may be thee most immature and lazy thing i’ve heard

      2018-12-09 11:45:29 UTC 0
      • Replying to: KB_SquaredDeadass though “rather than telling me myself to do it” may

        he has developed a bad habit and has mental issues. i should know as he has told me and i have some as well. its not lazy at this point its genuine need of help

        2018-12-10 15:18:05 UTC 1
  • Replying to comment by: ████████ ██Guess Who I just lost all respect for... Toxic, you’re comp

    I already told him about the promise thing

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  • Replying to comment by: ████████ ██Guess Who I just lost all respect for... Toxic, you’re comp

    Dammit no…no

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  • Replying to comment by: TheGamerX@vamrackpowerhouse

    Well usually when i
    Do choreography i write out what the characters are gonna to do on a piece of paper and then animate it.

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  • Replying to comment by: Toxic911 AnimationsIt obviously won’t work lmao. This is just yet another time

    Dammit i don\’t know what to do.im very confused.

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  • @toxic911 i want to talk about the situation with epitaph and to make things better between you two

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    • Yea that probably won’t happen. I’m an optimist, but also a realist. The guy hates me and everything about me. He hates me for being “too snobby” even though I’m not at all. He hates me for being “too arrogant” even though, once again, I’m not at all. (Seriously the dude needs to learn what that means) He even hates me for being “too intelligent” because I use long paragraphs and I can destroy any argument he makes. He’s incredibly petty like that, and I’ve tried time and time again to establish common ground but the dude just will not accept that he can be wrong sometimes, he’d just rather come up with excuses.

      Honestly, it would probably escalate from “making things better” to an all out insult-fest. (With all the insults coming from him, mind you. He has a knack for using insults instead of arguments.) I’d like to make things better, I really would, and I’m willing to try to see his perspective and have an open mind, but not until he can do the same.

      2018-12-08 00:25:36 UTC 0
      • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsYea that probably won’t happen. I’m an optimist, but also a

        epitaph, though not fully verifiable that he meant it, has admitted that he is wrong and mean sometimes

        just a little thing

        2018-12-08 00:28:21 UTC 0
        • Replying to: dezwayepitaph, though not fully verifiable that he meant it, has a

          Every time he does do that, it’s pretty much a generalization, and he hasn’t ever really apologized for it either. He understands “he can be mean” but he’s never really genuinely said sorry for it, and he has said before that “he can be wrong” in general but he’ll never admit to being wrong in any specific way.

          2018-12-08 01:17:25 UTC 3
          • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsEvery time he does do that, it’s pretty much a generalizatio

            y u so s m a r t boi

            2018-12-08 02:11:58 UTC 0
            • Replying to: albo3y u so s m a r t boi

              it makes my brain want to go kablooey
              (that’s a good thing)

              2018-12-08 02:12:17 UTC 0
      • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsYea that probably won’t happen. I’m an optimist, but also a

        He’s trying to become better but your pushing him away. You if he’s apologizing to you then you have to do the same you put him through some depression lately and he needed to take a break from the website because of what happened. Now he’s the tricky part he wants us to help him by having us remind him that he promised not to bash on figs but I honestly don’t know how that will work.

        2018-12-08 19:04:48 UTC 0
        • Replying to: raider99He's trying to become better but your pushing him away. You

          It obviously won’t work lmao. This is just yet another time where Epitaph tries to garner pity for a while then resumes his normal activity. A couple things.

          1. He clearly isn’t trying to become better. To try to become better would first require effort to gain self-awareness on the wrongs. He says “he’s wrong” but he’ll never admit to anything specifically, which just shows how little he actually cares. And I’m not pushing him away, I never have. I have always tried to help, but he has actually been the one to push me away time and time again because “he has no respect for me at all.” You’ll find that a majority of the problems between the two of us originate completely from Epitaph.

          2. I have never recieved any apologies from him. In addition, I am not required to apologize back if he ever does “apologize.”

          3. Is all the bullying and depression he caused in the community immediately made up for simply because he’s sad too? The jerk is narrow-minded, he thinks everyone was bullying him when in reality they were just standing up for themselves after they’ve been hurt by Epitaph so many times. These are but few of the consequences for the depression and anger he has placed in the minds of many community members.

          4. He isn’t willing to improve, he just wants others to drag him along. He hasn’t displayed the willingness to improve, he only wishes to do so simply because of the negative backlash and for reputation reasons. There is nothing genuine in that. Besides, I’ve already shown him all the multiple wrongs he constantly commits, and he just responds with stuff like “irrelevant scarf user” and “you disgust me.” We aren’t obliged to help him. We can, but we don’t need to. I’ve tried helping in the past, I’ve tried bridging every gap but Epitaph has provoked the majority of our confrontations. I won’t waste my time on a lost cause because he can’t “handle criticism.”

          2018-12-08 23:19:42 UTC 7
          • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsIt obviously won’t work lmao. This is just yet another time

            Dammit i don’t know what to do.im very confused.

            2018-12-09 03:15:11 UTC 0
            • Replying to: VamrackDammit i don't know what to do.im very confused.

              Guess Who I just lost all respect for…

              Toxic, you’re completely out of hand.
              Epitaph doesn’t want an apology, he wants you to stop.
              On Discord, Epitaph has given us ways to help him.
              He said, and I quote: “If you notice me attempting to attack a Scarfie or anything like that, don’t tell me to stop, don’t do that, tell me that i promised to stop. I need to just give myself the routine to stop caring about Scarfies and Base bois. You guys need to help me so i can help you. I will still provide criticism to those who ask. If i sound assholey to them, that’s just cause they asked for it.”

              So I need you to grow the f*ck up and move on.

              2018-12-09 04:17:25 UTC 0
              • Replying to: ████████ ██Guess Who I just lost all respect for... Toxic, you’re comp

                Dammit no…no

                2018-12-09 05:20:15 UTC 1
              • Replying to: ████████ ██Guess Who I just lost all respect for... Toxic, you’re comp

                I already told him about the promise thing

                2018-12-09 05:21:18 UTC 0
              • Replying to: ████████ ██Guess Who I just lost all respect for... Toxic, you’re comp

                They asked for is is @sshole behavior

                2018-12-09 05:21:33 UTC 0
                • Replying to: Ramoxfire V2They asked for is is @sshole behavior

                  shut the f*ck up Ramox. I new your apology was too good to be true

                  2018-12-09 05:28:56 UTC 0
                  • Replying to: ████████ ██shut the f*ck up Ramox. I new your apology was too good to b

                    Come on dude, lets not turn on each other.

                    2018-12-09 05:31:10 UTC 1
                  • Replying to: ████████ ██shut the f*ck up Ramox. I new your apology was too good to b

                    I apologize for the way I went about and used myself. I did not say your actions were good . 2 very different things

                    2018-12-09 05:32:27 UTC 0
                    • Replying to: Ramoxfire V2I apologize for the way I went about and used myself. I did

                      Oh and my default response for those who tell me to shut up. Make me

                      2018-12-09 05:33:26 UTC 0
                    • Replying to: Ramoxfire V2I apologize for the way I went about and used myself. I did

                      my actions are my own.
                      If I explode at you, that’s my fault.

                      My Hot Headedness is my problem

                      2018-12-09 05:36:53 UTC 0
                      • Replying to: ████████ ██my actions are my own. If I explode at you, that’s my fault.

                        But it becomes everyone’s once you overuse and abuse it. That’s why I wanted epitaph punished because of the cycle of abuse. I went at it the wrong way and did what I swore to stop

                        2018-12-09 05:38:28 UTC 0
                        • Replying to: Ramoxfire V2But it becomes everyone's once you overuse and abuse it. Th

                          Me getting angry isn’t something I can abuse until i can control it, which is something that cannot do

                          2018-12-09 05:41:12 UTC 0
                          • Replying to: ████████ ██Me getting angry isn’t something I can abuse until i can con

                            Anger is the start. But it must be controlled or heavily fined as we humans don’t act on anger well

                            2018-12-09 05:44:21 UTC 0
              • Replying to: ████████ ██Guess Who I just lost all respect for... Toxic, you’re comp

                How have I “gotten out of hand?” You say this, but provide nothing of it besides epitaph talking about ways to change. I think I’m being rather reasonable and mature about this, really. If I was immature, I would have been spouting tons of insults at Epitaph for all the rumors and lies he’s spread about me.

                First off, the apology thing was about Epitaph apologizing to me. I haven’t done anything to him to warrant an apology. But he has ridiculed me behind my back, openly insulted me without any basis for doing so, and all around has been a jerk to me. I think that deserves an apology.

                Epitaph has talked about how he could improve. But it’s not an effort on his part, it’s the community being forced to remind him that he promised. I can understand that being necessary for only a little while, but I think it might just have to be all the time, since Epitaph has exhibited no effort to change his views that base users are automatically “inferior and idiotic.”

                Please, I really don’t want to quarrel or anything. I just want to reach a common understanding. So please refrain from such comments like “grow the f*ck up and move on” without having solid evidence to require such a statement.

                2018-12-09 16:45:39 UTC 4
          • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsIt obviously won’t work lmao. This is just yet another time

            What the heck Toxic, you are actually bullying at this point. I don’t think you should do this, for all of SN, you’ve contributing the drama. Epitaph actually has been wanting change and you give no craps. You are ignoring what he was saying and trying to do. Quit it for the love of god, please

            2018-12-09 05:28:00 UTC 0
            • Replying to: Arch HorriganWhat the heck Toxic, you are actually bullying at this point

              This isn’t bullying at all. This is using prior evidence and events to determine a conclusion. Bullying would be constantly attacking someone with insults, ridiculing them in front of everyone. Making a person feel less than human. Like they’re meaningless. A bully lacks confidence, and thus must take it by bringing other people down to their level through being mean to them.

              It’s strange that Epitaph exhibits that behavior surprisingly frequently.

              I’m not ignoring what he’s saying. I do believe Epitaph wants to change. I just don’t believe Epitaph will put in the effort to do so. This has happened before, mind you. Drama, then epitaph releasing an apology talking about how he’s sorry and that he’ll change for the better, 1 week of smiley faces, then back to same old bullying. I want that cycle to end. I want Epitaph to improve, and I want the community to improve. I want this place to be filled with acceptance and kindness. I just find it hard to believe that, given all the history before, Epitaph would be able to completely change for the better. Though I’d love for that to happen.

              2018-12-09 16:16:05 UTC 5
              • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsThis isn’t bullying at all. This is using prior evidence and

                Toxic, I want to speak with you in private, because what you have done… Its just gross

                2018-12-09 16:20:11 UTC 0
          • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsIt obviously won’t work lmao. This is just yet another time

            You have been affecting Epitaph so much, it got him into a depression. You back the problem away from you. Epitaph is leaving Stick Nodes and will be gone until you explain your stuff and set out your differences, and act actually mature. You not listening and ignoring will do nothing but make the problem worse.

            2018-12-09 05:39:53 UTC 0
            • Replying to: Arch HorriganYou have been affecting Epitaph so much, it got him into a d

              Prove toxic wrong with facts and evidence
              Then he will listen

              2018-12-09 05:45:01 UTC 0
            • Replying to: Arch HorriganYou have been affecting Epitaph so much, it got him into a d

              I have been mature in all of our discussions. Epitaph hasn’t lol. He has provoked the majority of all our problems by mindlessly insulting and ridiculing me while I was trying to establish a factual understanding. I have been listening, but I’ve certainly been trying to do things to improve the community.

              Depression is a horrible thing. I know that personally. I would never wish it upon another person. Not even Epitaph. While I understand that Epitaph having such depression is just horrible, I don’t think it makes up for all the depression he caused in the community. He’s bullied many other people here, and many of them have become depressed and angry because of his actions. I think Epitaph just needs to do more to make up for the pain he caused in the past. “Being sorry” doesn’t quite fix the emotional stress he has caused in other people.

              2018-12-09 16:20:32 UTC 6
  • Replying to comment by: tukaluOk. I made a video 5 days ago and I take it a break. And @va

    We are ok know.

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  • Replying to comment by: SlapStyle AnimsWell, it may take awhile for hate to go away, as hes been hu

    He\’s hurt from what i did? From what i see,he\’s been ignoring me throughout this whole ordeal i was pretty much irrelevant throughout everything that was happening i was even told most of the time i was told to shut up and this did not concern me.if im apologizing to him he also owes me an apology for repeatedly sh*tting on my work and causing drama when i haven\’t even said anything wrong to him. Im hurt too i loved epitaphs work i would be excited when he watched my animations and i like his movie it even gave me inspiration to do the mewlia movie. but once i started changing my figs designs or would not change my characters design because he did not like it that\’s when the thread between us started ripping and separating and it stressed me like a motherf*cker,it stressed me out so much that i had to express how i felt in this vid. https://youtu.be/mwUWVZ7tyhY
    After that video he still was trying to force me to change my style, once i told him im doing what i want with my animations and characters all he did was mock me.we even had a argument about mewlia being a anthro or not twice
    Then after that he would just keep calling my animations scarf figure work and lazy. If ive did stuff to him tell me and im not talking about recent things like the gif or the other vid i just uploaded those was because i could not take it anymore.i mean through 2 months ago.

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  • @epitaph200 so now that this thing is \”over\” where do we stand? Do you still hate me?

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      2018-12-06 08:34:03 UTC 0
    • Well, it may take awhile for hate to go away, as hes been hurt by things you’ve done.
      Though I hope he finds a way to forgive you, the both of you do not need to be enemies

      2018-12-06 12:14:35 UTC 1
      • Replying to: SlapStyle AnimsWell, it may take awhile for hate to go away, as hes been hu

        Yes

        2018-12-06 13:43:02 UTC 0
      • Replying to: SlapStyle AnimsWell, it may take awhile for hate to go away, as hes been hu

        He’s hurt from what i did? From what i see,he’s been ignoring me throughout this whole ordeal i was pretty much irrelevant throughout everything that was happening i was even told most of the time i was told to shut up and this did not concern me.if im apologizing to him he also owes me an apology for repeatedly sh*tting on my work and causing drama when i haven’t even said anything wrong to him. Im hurt too i loved epitaphs work i would be excited when he watched my animations and i like his movie it even gave me inspiration to do the mewlia movie. but once i started changing my figs designs or would not change my characters design because he did not like it that’s when the thread between us started ripping and separating and it stressed me like a motherf*cker,it stressed me out so much that i had to express how i felt in this vid. https://youtu.be/mwUWVZ7tyhY
        After that video he still was trying to force me to change my style, once i told him im doing what i want with my animations and characters all he did was mock me.we even had a argument about mewlia being a anthro or not twice
        Then after that he would just keep calling my animations scarf figure work and lazy. If ive did stuff to him tell me and im not talking about recent things like the gif or the other vid i just uploaded those was because i could not take it anymore.i mean through 2 months ago.

        2018-12-06 14:48:28 UTC 0
  • Replying to comment by: Ramoxfire V2Allright o want to bring somthing else to the table @epitaph

    Hey ive done nothing to that group besides showing epitaph being decapitated but it was towards him. Im ok with the other people in the group.but im still gonna have it blown up in arch\’s Armageddon but that\’s just to spite epitaph.

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  • Replying to comment by: dezwayRalph said that if we don't all stop and chill, he'll begi

    Oh I\’ll back off only on this website everywhere else im gonna skullf*….im not even gonna finish that.ok ill calm down but he better not say sh*t that will provoke me.

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  • Replying to comment by: UnknownSo what’s the punishment. You all keep saying “he must be pu

    It\’s that f*cking speech all over again but this time you ask me to help you become better that\’s just pathetic.
    You hate me because of im a \”anti furry\” news flash jackass i haven\’t done sh*t to any furries unless your mad because im killing them in a animation.boi it\’s a figure, a file, a non living thing i have a friend that loves hentai,furry porn and all types of f*cked sh*t and i show him how much i hate those things but guess what epitaph we dont argue, we actually laugh at each other\’s obsessions im edgy and want to kill all rule 34 characters and he loves to watch it.and your mad at me for killing furry characters?and trust me i like good side of furries
    As long as they aren\’t wearing fur suits and beating their meat im good.oh and um if you hadn\’t noticed I\’VE BEEN OK WITH THE PEOPLE IN THICC NODES TOO!!! So dont give me the bullsh*t im still stand against you until you fix your sh*t how hard could it be to encourage someone to do better and if they dont want to accept your advice just be ok with it and let it go,oh sh*t it\’s like i said the magic words vamrack what did you say?(let it go) holy crap vamrack getting disney up in this b*tch.if it\’s that hard then there is something really wrong with you.

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  • Replying to comment by: Scorching ScorpioIt’s fine. You’re human. Mistakes will be made But I have

    It\’s not the first time he said this

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  • Replying to comment by: UnknownSo what’s the punishment. You all keep saying “he must be pu

    I don\’t even hate all furries i don\’t like the bad side of it.

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