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    Permaocciferuc-votersubscribermaster-noderfeatured-lvl1uc-winner-lvl3 2019-05-20 15:17:09 UTC

    I’m making this post here because Epitaph has blocked me and I cannot respond to his apology/state of the site post directly. Although I cannot @ him, I’m sure that one of his friends will inform him of this post, or he’ll happen upon it by himself. Epitaph, if you are reading this, do not feel the need to unblock me, as I can see your posts just by logging out.

    With the apology section, I’m going to be honest, it isn’t a very good apology. Mostly because this is the same apology we get everytime he does something bad. General apologies are usually the worse because it fails to directly address what you’re actually apologising for. He briefly mentions the little scuffle between him and Toxic on Discord, but doesn’t actually apologise for it. Hell he doesn’t even mention the part where he called Toxic “Shit at psychology”. I get that it was the heat of the moment type deal, but you still gotta apologise for momentary behavior.

    I was expecting names, saying “Yo Squido I’m sorry for prematurely judging your Discord server” or “Hey HOWFians, sorry for taking an unnecessary jab at your group” or “Hey Toxic I’m sorry for calling you sh!t at psychology”. And no I don’t expect an apology myself. Compared to what the other people involved dealt with my banning from the SN tea party is minor, and it’s not like I used it all too much. All I want is you to acknowledge why I was so pissed

    Because for the past year I’ve been defending you.

    I’ve been defending you for sh!t I look back at and think ‘What the hell was I thinking’. All that year of looking the other way whenever you did something questionable, like when you basically bullied Cookie into leaving that one time.

    It makes me feel disposable, like all that didn’t even matter to you. All over my interest in anime and Street Fighter.

    I also find it rather inappropriate to call Jackfly an “isolationalist asshole” in your freaking apology post, especially that first part because if I can remember you’re the same guy who went on a banning spree so you could isolate yourself with a few select people.

    I do agree that the web site certainly isn’t the same. Before, this website was practically an addiction for me. I uploaded figures more frequently, I posted more frequently, and tried to get in projects more frequently. But suddenly I find myself using the site less and less. And while it does have to do with some of the stuff listed in Epitaph’s post, over-all I just feel myself dwindling from SN in general. Maybe this summer I’ll get some more motivation.

    That’s the end of this rant. Please actually add to the conversation/debate instead of “delete dis you’re causing drama!!” because simply ignoring the discussion usually just breeds contempt between people.

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    • I don’t care what you said in the last paragraph about Drama
      I didn’t care to read this post.
      I do care that this post will do nothing except become a Fuse for Drama.
      Politely cease, Gyro

      2019-05-20 15:25:40 UTC 4
      • Replying to: β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆI don't care what you said in the last paragraph about Dram

        “That’s the end of this rant. Please actually add to the conversation/debate instead of β€œdelete dis you’re causing drama!!” because simply ignoring the discussion usually just breeds contempt between people.”

        really should’ve read the last part

        2019-05-20 15:26:08 UTC 0
    • Drama is stupid. Just you putting this here. Let the shit go Jesus Christ people

      2019-05-20 15:53:34 UTC 0
      • Replying to: SlapStyle AnimsDrama is stupid. Just you putting this here. Let the shit go

        Right, because letting problems such as these remain unsolved has proven to be suuuuuuuper helpful for everyone and has culminated in everyone liking everyone

        2019-05-20 15:56:56 UTC 6
        • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsRight, because letting problems such as these remain unsolve

          Thank you toxic
          It seems you understand

          2019-05-20 15:58:39 UTC 0
    • I tell people
      They rarely listen until it’s too late
      I’m glad you opened your eyes

      2019-05-20 15:57:39 UTC 0
    • i’ll give you credit here this was actually a very well written post

      I have no idea what this is about, as usual

      it looks like you’re upset he didn’t apologize well enough or something?

      so did he actually *do* anything new or simply just attempt a half-assed apology?

      you people keep digging up the past and from what I see, epitaph is here being normal almost daily – I actually see a lot of questionable actions from OTHER people

      then, also almost daily, I see he gets some hate-response at him out of nowhere, like just “die” or some shit, and guess what – he doesn’t react to it

      but then it seems he’ll mis-speak here or there and off we go into drama land again

      2019-05-20 16:06:00 UTC 5
      • Replying to: Ralph (Developer)i'll give you credit here this was actually a very well wri

        Epitaph likes to make sure his activity on the SN website is peachy clean, it’s on discord where he actively bullies other people for using stickfigures and whatnot, a lot of drama happened recently on discord because of him and what he’s been doing, and it really doesn’t help that he’s been ignoring most of it on discord and passive aggressive attacking people on The website with all this β€œApparently I can’t have an opinion anymore” stuff making it look like he’s a victim.

        He doesn’t react to a lot of sn website stuff because it’s harder to cover up his tracks than it is on discord, he receives a lot of hate here because of the hate he dishes out there. It’s basically him running around and attacking people at other locations then running back to where it’s safe and passive aggressive taunting them.

        2019-05-20 16:13:19 UTC 4
      • Replying to: Ralph (Developer)i'll give you credit here this was actually a very well wri

        well, this argument popped off on discord
        lets just say it slowly went downhill

        2019-05-20 16:15:04 UTC 2
      • Replying to: Ralph (Developer)i'll give you credit here this was actually a very well wri

        As Toxic said above, it’s mostly Discord stuff.

        Yeah my main problem is the half-assed apology. He apologized for previous behavior which for the most part has already been apologized for. He only nodded to the drama that majorly affected his decision to leave the site (that being the HOWF 3.5 comment) and didn’t apologize for the stuff he did on Discord, like calling Toxic shit at psychology.

        2019-05-20 16:18:14 UTC 1
        • Replying to: PermaAs Toxic said above, it's mostly Discord stuff. Yeah my ma

          If it’s discord just keep it there

          2019-05-20 16:26:49 UTC 0
          • Replying to: SlapStyle AnimsIf it’s discord just keep it there

            β€œLet’s just take all our problems and push them elsewhere”

            Epitaph is being a bad dude on discord. Can’t be disputed at this point. He’s enabled by the website to continue doing bad stuff because people don’t see what’s going on in discord, only that people are getting mad at him, and no one really knows the reason why except the people getting mad. Keeping it on discord deprives the public from all the information. It’s literally keeping the truth away from everyone lol.

            Also kinda feels like you’re talking for epitaph right now not gonna lie-

            2019-05-20 16:37:14 UTC 1
          • Replying to: SlapStyle AnimsIf it’s discord just keep it there

            But he can’t apologize there until he decides to unblock Toxic and briefly go onto the HOWF server and apologize.

            2019-05-20 16:37:16 UTC 1
        • Replying to: PermaAs Toxic said above, it's mostly Discord stuff. Yeah my ma

          If he’s blocked on discord where else is he supposed to take it slap
          It needs to be said
          It needs to be done
          Drama or not if this dosent settle tensions will get worse
          Sorry gyro I replied to you because slap refuses to unblock me

          2019-05-20 16:44:54 UTC 0
      • Replying to: Ralph (Developer)i'll give you credit here this was actually a very well wri

        make a discord account, hit me up
        Squi#1622
        ill see if i can gather some stuff.

        2019-05-20 16:36:40 UTC 0
        • Replying to: SquiSNmake a discord account, hit me up Squi#1622 ill see if i can

          I mean… He is on streak of not getting a discord account so…

          Plus he’s prob too busy…

          I do have discord tho and I am curious-

          2019-05-20 16:44:33 UTC 0
          • Replying to: arcionekI mean... He is on streak of not getting a discord account s

            @toxic911 loan this one some info

            2019-05-20 16:48:39 UTC 0
          • Replying to: arcionekI mean... He is on streak of not getting a discord account s

            Oh boy I’ll get you some deets

            2019-05-20 17:40:54 UTC 0
      • Replying to: Ralph (Developer)i'll give you credit here this was actually a very well wri

        lmao ralph is boy of good
        btw

        2019-05-20 19:34:26 UTC 0
        • User Banned

          Replying to: Snipperlmao ralph is boy of good btw

          911801

          2019-05-21 01:02:36 UTC 0
    • 2019-05-20 16:19:30 UTC 1
    • @squidoanimations @gyro @toxic911 @spierrwolf @epitaph200
      Listen, I need not say this to spierr, but I figure he should see this anyway.

      I demand that you all stop this immediately.

      Have you no self control?
      You should treat others the same way that YOU want them to Treat you.
      You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

      2019-05-20 18:34:18 UTC 1
      • Replying to: β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ@squidoanimations @gyro @toxic911 @spierrwolf @epitaph200 Li

        spierr is trying to stop toxic and gyro and all those other peeps my 9gag

        2019-05-20 18:35:21 UTC 0
      • Replying to: β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ@squidoanimations @gyro @toxic911 @spierrwolf @epitaph200 Li

        Look I’m trying my best to be civilized and for the most part so has Epitaph.

        2019-05-20 18:38:25 UTC 1
        • Replying to: PermaLook I'm trying my best to be civilized and for the most pa

          Point still stands, and it applies to all instances of Drama everywhere.
          So just remember this next time something that can cause Drama happens,
          You should ALWAYS treat others the way that YOU want to be treated

          2019-05-20 18:42:46 UTC 2
      • Replying to: β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ@squidoanimations @gyro @toxic911 @spierrwolf @epitaph200 Li

        not sure why i should be included considering all i did was “point out stuff”
        didnt attack, just said some things that werent hostile

        2019-05-20 18:50:03 UTC 0
      • Replying to: β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ@squidoanimations @gyro @toxic911 @spierrwolf @epitaph200 Li

        Of course I understand the whole β€œtreat others the way you would treat yourself” shtick. But I’m sick and tired of Epitaph constantly getting away with all the crap he pulls off so someone needs to tell people about it.

        I understand the validity of the rule, but I also understand that some things need to said and some information needs to be spread to the public. I don’t think the whole of the website should be blinded of all the information going on here.

        2019-05-20 19:18:05 UTC 1
        • Replying to: Toxic911 AnimationsOf course I understand the whole β€œtreat others the way you w

          If this is a discord problem why would you bring it to the website? He acts fine here so leave him be. Also I’m not sure what’s going on exactly but your criticizing an apology? What kinda Australian backward crap is that, at least he made one

          2019-05-21 01:48:15 UTC 0
          • Replying to: not Ω„ΰΆ§Κ‚ΗΆIf this is a discord problem why would you bring it to the w

            The discord problem started here with a comment made by Epitaph on Squido’s SN Discord server post.

            Yes I am criticizing the apology, and I wouldn’t be if he hadn’t been a repeat offender. This isn’t the first time he’s done stuff like this, and it certainly isn’t the first time he went off on Toxic. When you slight someone once usually you get off light, but you’re supposed to put more effort into the apology next time because you failed to put the effort into changing your behavior the first time.

            I’m not gonna give him an A for effort, a 50% is still an F, and I expect him to improve next time he apologizes, though if we were to take him for his word, there won’t be a next time hopefully.

            2019-05-21 18:51:53 UTC 0
            • Replying to: PermaThe discord problem started here with a comment made by Epit

              Can u dm me with screenshots or a server invite ?
              Username is Auto#6555

              2019-05-21 19:37:42 UTC 0
              • Replying to: not Ω„ΰΆ§Κ‚ΗΆCan u dm me with screenshots or a server invite ? Username i

                Can’t. Banned from his Discord server. If you understandably don’t want to take my word, it’s not like Epitaph has been denying it. You could ask him about it if you want.

                2019-05-21 23:09:23 UTC 0
    • yeah lemme just
      lemme just

      2019-05-20 19:32:05 UTC 1
    • Despacito, i have no idea whats going on lol

      2019-05-20 21:10:31 UTC 1
    • User Banned

      Drama is gey and im superior and have more knoeledge than ll of u together

      2019-05-21 01:14:34 UTC 0
    • Wait he called me that?

      2019-05-21 02:01:14 UTC 0
    • No

      2019-05-21 19:33:53 UTC 2