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I’m making this post here because Epitaph has blocked me and I cannot respond to his apology/state of the site post directly. Although I cannot @ him, I’m sure that one of his friends will inform him of this post, or he’ll happen upon it by himself. Epitaph, if you are reading this, do not feel the need to unblock me, as I can see your posts just by logging out.
With the apology section, I’m going to be honest, it isn’t a very good apology. Mostly because this is the same apology we get everytime he does something bad. General apologies are usually the worse because it fails to directly address what you’re actually apologising for. He briefly mentions the little scuffle between him and Toxic on Discord, but doesn’t actually apologise for it. Hell he doesn’t even mention the part where he called Toxic “Shit at psychology”. I get that it was the heat of the moment type deal, but you still gotta apologise for momentary behavior.
I was expecting names, saying “Yo Squido I’m sorry for prematurely judging your Discord server” or “Hey HOWFians, sorry for taking an unnecessary jab at your group” or “Hey Toxic I’m sorry for calling you sh!t at psychology”. And no I don’t expect an apology myself. Compared to what the other people involved dealt with my banning from the SN tea party is minor, and it’s not like I used it all too much. All I want is you to acknowledge why I was so pissed
Because for the past year I’ve been defending you.
I’ve been defending you for sh!t I look back at and think ‘What the hell was I thinking’. All that year of looking the other way whenever you did something questionable, like when you basically bullied Cookie into leaving that one time.
It makes me feel disposable, like all that didn’t even matter to you. All over my interest in anime and Street Fighter.
I also find it rather inappropriate to call Jackfly an “isolationalist asshole” in your freaking apology post, especially that first part because if I can remember you’re the same guy who went on a banning spree so you could isolate yourself with a few select people.
I do agree that the web site certainly isn’t the same. Before, this website was practically an addiction for me. I uploaded figures more frequently, I posted more frequently, and tried to get in projects more frequently. But suddenly I find myself using the site less and less. And while it does have to do with some of the stuff listed in Epitaph’s post, over-all I just feel myself dwindling from SN in general. Maybe this summer I’ll get some more motivation.
That’s the end of this rant. Please actually add to the conversation/debate instead of “delete dis you’re causing drama!!” because simply ignoring the discussion usually just breeds contempt between people.






I don’t care what you said in the last paragraph about Drama
I didn’t care to read this post.
I do care that this post will do nothing except become a Fuse for Drama.
Politely cease, Gyro
“Thatβs the end of this rant. Please actually add to the conversation/debate instead of βdelete dis youβre causing drama!!β because simply ignoring the discussion usually just breeds contempt between people.”
really should’ve read the last part
“I donβt care what you said in the last paragraph about Drama”
Really should’ve read my first sentence 😎
BUT I POSTED FIRST SO CHECKMATE
What
We’re playing chess now?
Uhhh…
I’ll move this Bishop then
I’ll move the.. horse thingy
I’ll move my Queen to intercept your Knight
I actually don’t know anything about chess
I do…
But I don’t know enough to be able to roleplay playing chess
*throws pawn at the king*
…
Did I win?
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Iβm personally sick of drama
Kids like Gyro just causing it because he feels like it by this point.
I mean, heβs attacking me cause i said… sorry?
Like, wow, low blow. Basically looking for excuses.
I honestly feel like you didn’t read the post
My problem is you didn’t actually put out personal apologies.
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Uh, i kinda did?
I said multiple times i was sorry
I stated the mistakes i made
I wrote a hell of a lot on what i did wrong
I simply stated the truth
Do you want me to just fabricate stuff just to have more to write about?
lmao a sorry machine
Drama is stupid. Just you putting this here. Let the shit go Jesus Christ people
Right, because letting problems such as these remain unsolved has proven to be suuuuuuuper helpful for everyone and has culminated in everyone liking everyone
Thank you toxic
It seems you understand
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Except for the part where i wrote a massive post detailing an apology for everything wrong iβve done and how iβm sorry.
Iβve paid up for my sins, i want nothing to do with arguing.
Please be the better man here and just tell Gyro to calm down.
You barely mentioned the whole Discord scuffle though
Most of what you said was stuff that you already apologized for. I and others feel like a more personal apology is needed, especially for Toxic imo.
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Because as Ralph has been saying, itβs nothing to do with SN.
Besides, i got rid of you that way because:
1) i just didnβt like you anyway and got rid of you so I wouldnβt be stressed in the place i go to to destress
2) because you wouldnβt go peacefully
If you simply accepted that i didnβt want you around, we wouldnβt be here.
Itβs genuinely not my fault, i had the full right to ban you simply cause i didnβt want you around.
Like I said, it makes what I did for you feel pointless
Also if you have the full right to ban me simply cause you didn’t like me then don’t I have to full right to continue this “drama” until you just apologize to them?
massive post detailing an apology
->post barely mentions any actual things you did wrong, just glosses over broad terms like toxicity and criticism, really just puts attention on the site being toxic and you trying to pin the blame of your actions on βstress.βIβve paid up for my sins
->in what universe does an apology equal an atonement, itβs literally just saying sorry and not doing anything to fix stuff (like how you always do during these situations)Apologies donβt equal everything being ok, itβs a half assed apology at that too, you donβt even mention the specifics as to what you said, it clearly just reflects that you donβt care.
Be the better man and actually change.
That makes sense to me
I tell people
They rarely listen until itβs too late
Iβm glad you opened your eyes
i’ll give you credit here this was actually a very well written post
I have no idea what this is about, as usual
it looks like you’re upset he didn’t apologize well enough or something?
so did he actually *do* anything new or simply just attempt a half-assed apology?
you people keep digging up the past and from what I see, epitaph is here being normal almost daily – I actually see a lot of questionable actions from OTHER people
then, also almost daily, I see he gets some hate-response at him out of nowhere, like just “die” or some shit, and guess what – he doesn’t react to it
but then it seems he’ll mis-speak here or there and off we go into drama land again
Epitaph likes to make sure his activity on the SN website is peachy clean, itβs on discord where he actively bullies other people for using stickfigures and whatnot, a lot of drama happened recently on discord because of him and what heβs been doing, and it really doesnβt help that heβs been ignoring most of it on discord and passive aggressive attacking people on The website with all this βApparently I canβt have an opinion anymoreβ stuff making it look like heβs a victim.
He doesnβt react to a lot of sn website stuff because itβs harder to cover up his tracks than it is on discord, he receives a lot of hate here because of the hate he dishes out there. Itβs basically him running around and attacking people at other locations then running back to where itβs safe and passive aggressive taunting them.
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βRecentlyβ
You do mean before my apology recently
That apology is universal.
I think that epimantaph is chill
He caused a lot of drama, I agree with that
But he has apologied
And since I was active on his discord im just gonna say that you guys should stop this shit, never ends good
well, this argument popped off on discord
lets just say it slowly went downhill
As Toxic said above, it’s mostly Discord stuff.
Yeah my main problem is the half-assed apology. He apologized for previous behavior which for the most part has already been apologized for. He only nodded to the drama that majorly affected his decision to leave the site (that being the HOWF 3.5 comment) and didn’t apologize for the stuff he did on Discord, like calling Toxic shit at psychology.
If itβs discord just keep it there
βLetβs just take all our problems and push them elsewhereβ
Epitaph is being a bad dude on discord. Canβt be disputed at this point. Heβs enabled by the website to continue doing bad stuff because people donβt see whatβs going on in discord, only that people are getting mad at him, and no one really knows the reason why except the people getting mad. Keeping it on discord deprives the public from all the information. Itβs literally keeping the truth away from everyone lol.
Also kinda feels like youβre talking for epitaph right now not gonna lie-
But he can’t apologize there until he decides to unblock Toxic and briefly go onto the HOWF server and apologize.
If heβs blocked on discord where else is he supposed to take it slap
It needs to be said
It needs to be done
Drama or not if this dosent settle tensions will get worse
Sorry gyro I replied to you because slap refuses to unblock me
User Banned
*sigh*
Discord stuff from a while a go.
Before i made a massive apology
Look, how about i get it for you
make a discord account, hit me up
Squi#1622
ill see if i can gather some stuff.
I mean… He is on streak of not getting a discord account so…
Plus he’s prob too busy…
I do have discord tho and I am curious-
@toxic911 loan this one some info
Oh boy Iβll get you some deets
lmao ralph is boy of good

btw
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@squidoanimations @gyro @toxic911 @spierrwolf @epitaph200
Listen, I need not say this to spierr, but I figure he should see this anyway.
I demand that you all stop this immediately.
Have you no self control?
You should treat others the same way that YOU want them to Treat you.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
spierr is trying to stop toxic and gyro and all those other peeps my 9gag
βI need not say this to spierr, but I figure he should see this anywayβ
Look I’m trying my best to be civilized and for the most part so has Epitaph.
Point still stands, and it applies to all instances of Drama everywhere.
So just remember this next time something that can cause Drama happens,
You should ALWAYS treat others the way that YOU want to be treated
not sure why i should be included considering all i did was “point out stuff”
didnt attack, just said some things that werent hostile
I just mentioned the first main people who came to mind
oh, aight
Of course I understand the whole βtreat others the way you would treat yourselfβ shtick. But Iβm sick and tired of Epitaph constantly getting away with all the crap he pulls off so someone needs to tell people about it.
I understand the validity of the rule, but I also understand that some things need to said and some information needs to be spread to the public. I donβt think the whole of the website should be blinded of all the information going on here.
If this is a discord problem why would you bring it to the website? He acts fine here so leave him be. Also Iβm not sure whatβs going on exactly but your criticizing an apology? What kinda Australian backward crap is that, at least he made one
The discord problem started here with a comment made by Epitaph on Squido’s SN Discord server post.
Yes I am criticizing the apology, and I wouldn’t be if he hadn’t been a repeat offender. This isn’t the first time he’s done stuff like this, and it certainly isn’t the first time he went off on Toxic. When you slight someone once usually you get off light, but you’re supposed to put more effort into the apology next time because you failed to put the effort into changing your behavior the first time.
I’m not gonna give him an A for effort, a 50% is still an F, and I expect him to improve next time he apologizes, though if we were to take him for his word, there won’t be a next time hopefully.
Can u dm me with screenshots or a server invite ?
Username is Auto#6555
Can’t. Banned from his Discord server. If you understandably don’t want to take my word, it’s not like Epitaph has been denying it. You could ask him about it if you want.
yeah lemme just

lemme just
Despacito, i have no idea whats going on lol
User Banned
Drama is gey and im superior and have more knoeledge than ll of u together
Wait he called me that?
Lol
No