If you’re a Christian or just want to learn about Christianity, c’mon and join us. Just to let you know what I usually do, I post a Bible chapter every day at any time between 5 and 11 A.M. U.S. central time, but we don’t have to stop there. We can make animations together, share Christian songs, parodies, comedy, sermons, and whatever else you want.
Now, just because I’m a little more light-hearted than some Christians doesn’t mean that this is all going to be fun and games. As a Christian, I have a responsibility to call out the things that God disapproves of. Some of the conversations we have might get a little hairy, and that’s okay, as long as we abide by the site’s community guidelines. 😊 You may ask, “If your goal is to draw people into God’s kingdom, why are you calling out things that He disapproves of? Wouldn’t that, for one, push people away from God and, for another, get you into fights that you don’t want to be in?” I will answer the first question with these verses:
James 5:20
“Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him”
Titus 2:15
“Let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins”
1 Timothy 5:20
“As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear”
2 Timothy 4:2
“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction”
Psalm 141:5
“Let a righteous man strike me — it is a kindness; let him rebuke me — it is oil for my head; let my head not refuse it”
Proverbs 9:8
“Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you”.
And for the second question, Christianity is a sacrifice. I will take on challenges as a Christian that I wouldn’t as a lukewarm Christian, an atheist, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Jew, etc. And when I encounter those challenges, I have to put my faith in Yahweh above my feelings and desires. I’m not supposed to store up treasures here on Earth, but in the heavenly kingdom. In order to do that, I have to be inconvenienced and mocked, and I’m fine with that. I’ve chosen to give up everything I want for my God.
If I post anything on here that has anything to do with my opinion or interpretation of a situation, 9 times out of 10, it’s because that is my interpretation of the Bible. I believe that that everything in the Bible is objectively true, there’s just debates on how to INTERPRET said truth. I try my hardest not to let my worldview effect my biblical view, though, it may seep through.
If you’re curious about the name, I had to think of something, so I came up with “Pest” Control (as atheists seem to think that the way we communicate our religion to them is annoying, so they could see us as pests, and we are all in one group so that we can contain the Christian stuff mostly inside the group for “control”).
Before I edited the description of this group, it said: “We can brainstorm to find out more ways to win atheists over to Christ.” Since I typed that, my beliefs have changed slightly. I believe that, yes it is great to have atheists have a change of heart, that’s one of our biggest goals is to have more people up in heaven, but we shouldn’t be intentionally TRYING to change their religion (both because it pushes people away from the religion, and it’s just not what any human needs to do to another human). We need to be ourselves around them, have them see how we are as a person, how Christianity (even if they can’t identify it as that) affects us, and if they want to, change. And we should never, ever, push them to change; the Bible even tells us this. I have made this mistake for years, and to all of the atheists and people with other religious beliefs that I have hurt by doing this, I’m so unbelievably sorry.
Thank you for your time. Have a blessed and wonderful day!
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The war between the house of Saul and the house of David dragged on and on. The longer it went on the stronger David became, with the house of Saul getting weaker. * * * During the Hebron years, sons were born to David: Amnon, born of Ahinoam of Jezreel—the firstborn; Kileab, born of Abigail of Carmel, Nabal’s widow—his second; Absalom, born of Maacah, daughter of Talmai, king of Geshur—the third; Adonijah, born of Haggith—the fourth; Shephatiah, born of Abital—the fifth; Ithream, born of Eglah—the sixth. These six sons of David were born in Hebron. * * * Abner took advantage of the continuing war between the house of Saul and the house of David to gain power for himself. Saul had had a concubine, Rizpah, the daughter of Aiah. One day Ish-Bosheth confronted Abner: “What business do you have sleeping with my father’s concubine?” Abner lost his temper with Ish-Bosheth, “Treat me like a dog, will you! Is this the thanks I get for sticking by the house of your father, Saul, and all his family and friends? I personally saved you from certain capture by David, and you make an issue out of my going to bed with a woman! What God promised David, I’ll help accomplish—transfer the kingdom from the house of Saul and make David ruler over the whole country, both Israel and Judah, from Dan to Beersheba. If not, may God do his worst to me.” Ish-Bosheth, cowed by Abner’s outburst, couldn’t say another word. Abner went ahead and sent personal messengers to David: “Make a deal with me and I’ll help bring the whole country of Israel over to you.” “Great,” said David. “It’s a deal. But only on one condition: You’re not welcome here unless you bring Michal, Saul’s daughter, with you when you come to meet me.” David then sent messengers to Ish-Bosheth son of Saul: “Give me back Michal, whom I won as my wife at the cost of a hundred Philistine foreskins.” Ish-Bosheth ordered that she be taken from her husband Paltiel son of Laish. But Paltiel followed her, weeping all the way, to Bahurim. There Abner told him, “Go home.” And he went home. Abner got the elders of Israel together and said, “Only yesterday, it seems, you were looking for a way to make David your king. So do it—now! For God has given the go-ahead on David: ‘By my servant David’s hand, I’ll save my people Israel from the oppression of the Philistines and all their other enemies.’” Abner took the Benjaminites aside and spoke to them. Then he went to Hebron for a private talk with David, telling him everything that Israel in general and Benjamin in particular were planning to do. When Abner and the twenty men who were with him met with David in Hebron, David laid out a feast for them. Abner then said, “I’m ready. Let me go now to rally everyone in Israel for my master, the king. They’ll make a treaty with you, authorizing you to rule them however you see fit.” Abner was sent off with David’s blessing. Soon after that, David’s men, led by Joab, came back from a field assignment. Abner was no longer in Hebron with David, having just been dismissed with David’s blessing. As Joab and his raiding party arrived, they were told that Abner the son of Ner had been there with David and had been sent off with David’s blessing. Joab went straight to the king: “What’s this you’ve done? Abner shows up, and you let him walk away scot-free? You know Abner son of Ner better than that. This was no friendly visit. He was here to spy on you, figure out your comings and goings, find out what you’re up to.” Joab left David and went into action. He sent messengers after Abner; they caught up with him at the well at Sirah and brought him back. David knew nothing of all this. When Abner got back to Hebron, Joab steered him aside at the gate for a personal word with him. There he stabbed him in the belly, killed him in cold blood for the murder of his brother Asahel. Later on, when David heard what happened, he said, “Before God I and my kingdom are totally innocent of this murder of Abner son of Ner. Joab and his entire family will always be under the curse of this bloodguilt. May they forever be victims of crippling diseases, violence, and famine.” (Joab and his brother, Abishai, murdered Abner because he had killed their brother Asahel at the battle of Gibeon.) David ordered Joab and all the men under him, “Rip your cloaks into rags! Wear mourning clothes! Lead Abner’s funeral procession with loud lament!” King David followed the coffin. They buried Abner in Hebron. The king’s voice was loud in lament as he wept at the side of Abner’s grave. All the people wept, too. Then the king sang this tribute to Abner: Can this be? Abner dead like a nameless bum? You were a free man, free to go and do as you wished— Yet you fell as a victim in a street brawl. And all the people wept—a crescendo of crying! They all came then to David, trying to get him to eat something before dark. But David solemnly swore, “I’ll not so much as taste a piece of bread, or anything else for that matter, before…[Read more]
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Today’s Christianity discussion got me thinking of my own question
Is it true that in Christianity, atheists and people of other religions go to hell simply because of their beliefs? If so, why? If god is loving, why would he banish his creations to suffer eternally simply because of their beliefs. Most people are raised to believe in a certain religion, and it isn’t necessarily their fault they believe that way. As for atheists, they could have atheists parents who raised them as an atheist, or they may have become one due to there being no proof whatsoever for a certain religion to be true. And there are many religions anyway, so if religion was 100% proven to be true, there are many religions all claiming to be true, why would he make it so if you choose to be a believer of one besides Christianity you are punished despite not knowing better?
I have worded this question very poorly and I’m sorry. And I’m not trying to disprove Christianity or berate it either, I used to be one so that would be ridiculous (though I wasn’t taught anything about it, the religious school I went to just made us color)
(Pinged you two due to your deep understanding of Christianity)
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(I hope this helped a bit. If I didn’t answer the question fully to your ability I will try again to understand. If I miss said or even miss interpreted something please let me know).
It isn’t necessarily their fault they believe that way. As you said some people don’t have the knowledge and understanding in order to become a believer in Christ. Although that is just one of the jobs as us Christians should fulfill. To bring the word of Christ to others who don’t know. Now if someone had been shared the word of God with them and don’t believe it’s their choice sadly. As a Christian we are to bring and share the the word of God. We are to not force it upon others. We all have free will. A choice to make. That choice you choose can sometimes have an impact on you and others.
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I see, thanks for the response
So do people who weren’t told of the word of god go to hell or not?
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If they don’t believe sadly yes they do. At a certain age you have the ability and choice of what you believe. Therefore, you are held accountable for your choice of what you believe.
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I would also add to this that mental capacity is taken into consideration as well. For instance, a 25 year old with autism who has the mental capacity of a 3 year old would likely be judged as a 3 year old would; they would be too young to be held accountable. Aside from that, I agree with everything you said.
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I will take the mental capacity in consideration. Thanks for the correction. Wouldn’t want to miss or say anything wrong. Thank you again.
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Hey, thank YOU! Your answers to people’s questions could help them understand something better. You’re actually answering questions with pretty decent accuracy. I love seeing conversations about this stuff taking place, I feel like it’s pleasing to God and that makes me happy!
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never anticipated this site to take this turn but here we are
solid questions tho
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Hey Manny,
I’ll try my best to answer your question. As I stated just a bit earlier, I’m still a bit new to things. I did grow up in the church (it was like my second home), though I honestly didn’t pay much attention to it after middle school. But more recently I’ve come back to things and have been learning more and more. So I remember some things I was taught when I was little, but most things feel new to me. So essentially, I’ll try to explain the best I can, but I can’t promise that I won’t be wrong on a part/parts I say. Though I’ll link resources to help you find more knowledgeable people.
(Jump, Downward, and Zilla know far more then me. I’ll try my best with any further questions but, they’re a better bet).
Here we go.
Is it true that in Christianity, atheists and people of other religions go to hell simply because of their beliefs?
Well, it’s not necessarily their beliefs, but more so their rejection of Jesus. According to the Bible, we are saved through Jesus, so rejecting him is the 1 unforgivable sin which leads to hell. By putting your faith in Jesus, and believing in him, that leads to Heaven. Since your sins can be forgiving through him. Granted, that doesn’t mean you can go around committing crime sprees, then do a little prayer and go right to it. If you really believed in God, you would try to improve and follow him. We aren’t perfect, we’re flawed, so we won’t be sin free, but through him we can be forgiven of our sins and improve.
If God is loving, why would he banish his creations to suffer eternally simply because of their beliefs. Most people are raised to believe in a certain religion, and it isn’t necessarily their fault they believe that way. As for atheists, they could have atheists parents who raised them as an atheist…
Well, God is loving, but the reason for hell as stated before is rejecting Christ. One expression I heard I think, while simple, explains it decently well. When you go to court for a crime, the judge doesn’t look at all your good deeds and compare it to your bad ones. They judge you for your bad dead. So if you say murdered someone, they judge you on that murder. They wouldn’t say, oh well, he helps puppies on the weekends. The good deeds don’t out matter since the crime occurred. Though, you can get bailed out. Someone decided to pay for your crimes and get you out of there. And Jesus is your savior who bailed you out. He payed for your crimes and you are saved thanks to him. So by rejecting Jesus, it’s like you’re denying the bail money and staying in jail.
The expression was said better, but it’s just how I remember it, sorry about that. Anyway, God does love you, he loves everyone. He gave us a key known as Jesus. By rejecting him, your rejecting his love, leading to hell.
or they may have become one due to there being no proof whatsoever for a certain religion to be true. And there are many religions anyway, so if religion was 100% proven to be true, there are many religions all claiming to be true, why would he make it so if you choose to be a believer of one besides Christianity you are punished despite not knowing better?
Well, it comes down to one being right. When I was in middle school, I grew away from the faith since my low knowledge of it clashed with what I was learning in school, and in general. I’m a very skeptical person with things, and I need evidence to get behind something if it sounds off to me, as most people are/should be.
But I grew back in faith once I started to learn again. When I first researched, I started to see some things that actually showed up Christianity has evidence for its truth, and how things in the Bible connect to reality. Granted I don’t agree with every piece of evidence out there for certain things, that’s what leads to some denominations. But generally speaking, I’ve seen enough convincing evidence to keep my Christian, and not change religions or go atheist.
I can’t really go through everything due to time and plus there would just be too much to read, but a few things that proved it to me where,
– Jesus’ resurrection had 4 written testimonies, and 500 other stated eye wittinesses. The 4 testimonies were all written by different people at different times and match together.
– 10/12 disciples died brutal deaths for what they claimed to have seen. Not many people would die for something in such painful ways for something they can’t fully say they saw.
– Paul (from the Bible) someone who was against Christianity, and who had nothing to gain, became a Christian based on the evidence he saw
“ For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it. I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers.”
— Galatians 1:13–14 NIV”
Essentially, if Jesus’ resurrection is true, the rest is. If it didn’t happen, then as stated by…[Read more]
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Geez, I started this about 20-30 minutes ago. As a heads up really sorry for how long this got Manny. I divided things into chapters of shorts so just scroll around to whatever’s important if it’s too much.
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Thanks for the read, very good explanation
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Dude, I think I’ve found my carbon copy! I couldn’t have done a better job if I tried!
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Sorry for the delay, thanks man, I really appreciate it. Though I’m still not up to your level of knowledge. I haven’t read the Bible in full yet, so this was done based on memory from what I’ve heard plus research.
Though again, I really appreciate it, thank you.
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You give me too much credit. To be honest, it sounds like we’re both in the same boat of us having a lack of knowledge of the Bible in our childhood, and as we grew up we started understanding more and more. I’m learning more than 70% of my knowledge, pretty much, as I post it here. P.S. If you haven’t already checked it out yet, Mike Winger’s “20 Questions with Pastor Mike” playlist is fantastic!
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Simply it’s a test full of obstacles to see which choosed life and who choosed the after life
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I have alot questions 😂 sorry guys but if yall wanted to question me yall welcome too
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I have a question :
Who Christians worship ? Jesus or the holy spirit or god-
I think it’s God mostly but the other two are also there of course.
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At the same time or every god in specific time ?
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Well, God is the one god, Jesus is like his son and I know nothing about the Holy Spirit.
Idk you might have to ask the actual Christians, my knowledge is limited.
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I asked alot of peoples about this and two preists they didn’t answer it correctly so am confused somehow 🗿
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I may have an answer. I’ll will try to answer this in my best ability. As you said God is the one and only God. He created the earth and everything in it in 6 days. In that time he created the first man, Adam. He then created his wife Eve and they were to rule over the creation God gave to them with wisdom. In short they ended up committing the first sin in which then brought a curse down upon man. God could not withstand such sin because he was pure and sinless. Although he loved us so that he bring His one and only son down on earth, Jesus. Jesus was God in the flesh. Fully man and fully God. He was then crucified and died on the cross shedding his blood for our sins. He then rose from the dead three days after He was crucified. He continued his ministry for 40 days and then rose into heaven. He promised his followers that He would leave behind a guide and instructor for us because he left. This was the Holy Spirit. The Spirit that lives within Christians to help guide them in discerning and on their path to grow as a Christian. As for Christians we are to continue to grow in our relationship in Christ help guide and show others to Christ who do not believe. For the day will come when He comes back and judges us all. Those who believe he will take with him into heaven to live for eternity. As for those who refuse to believe? They will be left behind to reside in eternal hell.
Was a little late.
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God have the ability to forgive without a son 👳 do you know why god send a son ?
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That’s a great question. God sent his son down on earth because Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light. Know one comes to God accept through Jesus. Jesus ministry on earth brought others to Christ and they became Christians. Because Jesus died on the cross for our sins not only did he then take the sins of the world. Because he died we are now able to be with God. God can not be with sin because he is sinless and pure. But because Jesus died on the cross for the sin of the world if you believe, accept Jesus into your heart, and have a relationship with Christ once you die you will be in heaven with him for eternity. As a Christian though we still have a job to fulfill as we are alive.
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That’s one am looking for is how god can die and why the father didn’t help em
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Do you mean, I’m looking for how Jesus can die and why God didn’t help him?
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Yes that my question
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Well that’s a good question. @mannyanims was on the right track. When God put Jesus on the earth Jesus was fully God and fully man. He experienced what it was like to be a human being. Along with him being a human meant he experienced hardship and had to make some hard choices. Before Jesus was to die he prayed to God. He didn’t want to die and wanted to know if there was any other way. Although this was what God’s plan was. When he was crucified on the cross he was beat, spit upon, and mocked. I believe that God indeed could have prevented this from happening. But as John 3:16 says…
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Wait jesus mother is mary ? and is she human?
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Yes indeed.
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So she is a god ? Because she is a mother of god and a wife of god yk
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Mary is not God. Mary is the woman who gave birth to Jesus. Angles came to her and bring her the news she was to have a baby and name him Jesus. They told her of what he was to do and that he was God’s son. The father was to be Joseph. They were to raise Jesus and take care him until he was grown up into man and went on with his ministry. God sent Jesus down on the earth. He was born through Mary as her child and the son of Joseph.
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You sure ?
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I’m pretty sure. If there is something I miss said, missed, or said incorrectly please tell me. Besides that yes.
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I will give a slight correction to the information here. Chyll did fantastic explaining everything, the only thing that I want to clarify is that Joseph is not the BIOLOGICAL father of Jesus, he was like an adoptive father. The Holy Spirit put the embryo in Mary’s womb, no physical sperm was used to create Jesus.
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True to the fullest. Thank you for the correction. Sorry for the late response.
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Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I think it was
Jesus had a choice, but he died for humanity’s sins. He could’ve saved himself (or rather, god could’ve saved him, one of the two), but he instead chose to save humanity by dying for their sins so all humans don’t all suffer in hell (a place of torture) when they die, and instead go to new earth upon the creation of it
Could you fact check this please? My knowledge of the Bible is very, very low
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Sorry for the delay, for some reason your mentions to me specifically keep going to my ad email section.
Anyway, indeed he choose to die for us. While the Father sent him, he still willingly went forward to die for us so that we didn’t have to suffer his fate.
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There’s only one god in Christianity
Jesus is his son
And idk what the Holy Spirit is
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We worship God, which is Jesus, The Father, and The Holy Spirit. They are not the same exact person, but when you pray to God, you’re praying to all 3.

Granted some Christian’s don’t believe in a trinity, but personally I really have only seen evidence for it rather than against it.
I personally am not the best at answering these types of things, so I’d point you to @jumpsh00ps for a more coherent response.
I hope this helps, thanks for question man.
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So 3 in the same time ?
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Well, all 3 are God, but different beings. Not 3 different gods. 1 God, but 3 beings/persons.
Here’s a quick summary that says it better then I did earlier
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God exist before existing ? 👀
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Well, actually, God created time, so therefore, He exists outside of time itself. So, from God’s perspective, there is no “before” or “after” or “during” or time itself. To put it into perspective, if you (like me) are a fan of superheroes, you should be aware of something we’ll call the “Lazarus pit”. Basically, the heroes and villains generally, at some point, die and then later come back to life, then in another story 5 years later, they die again and come back to life again, and it becomes a cycle. Since we don’t exist inside of a comic book, from our perspective, the “Lazarus pit” does not actually exist, but from the perspective of Batman, it does exist.
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Smart 👀 mashallah 😊
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I kinda am a Christian
It’s just that
My brain won’t care to even say things I’m not supposed to say
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I’m glad you consider yourself a Christian, though the Bible does warn to not be a lukewarm Christian.
“I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth”. (Rev NIV)
I was the same way for years until just this year when I really started to actually do my research and grow closer to God. I still have more to improve on but I’d recommend just watching some Christian videos on YouTube. Mike Winger, Ruslan KD, and Inspiring Philosophy are my recommendations. It helped me a lot to learn about Christianity/refresh my knowledge and really grow in my faith.
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I am about to spit you out of my mouth
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I don’t know much
MAN IM ONLY A CHILD-
(Nah jk I don’t know much about the Bible)
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I suppose I can understand that, but for me, personally, I believe that you can pray in your head or while doing just about anything. While I’m at work, stocking freight on shelves and stacking pallets (under a time crunch where I can’t stop moving for more than a few seconds), I talk to God all of the time, telling Him how frustrated I am about my job, thanking Him that I have a job, asking Him to give me the words when I’m speaking to someone who I’m frustrated with, etc. I believe that praying to God is literally just talking to Him, whether it be in your head or audibly. You don’t have to do the stereotypical things like getting on your knees and folding your hands (though those are valid ways of praying if you want to). But, of course, this is just my personal opinion; everyone is different.
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It’s exactly what praying is praying = talking to god
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Yeah I pray on my head sometimes
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You did a fantastic job explaining it, what are you talking about. You could replace me one day!
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😂😂😂
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I liked he is respectull and you too bro
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After all this, David prayed. He asked God, “Shall I move to one of the cities of Judah?” God said, “Yes, move.” “And to which city?” “To Hebron.” So David moved to Hebron, along with his two wives, Ahinoam of Jezreel and Abigail the widow of Nabal of Carmel. David’s men, along with their families, also went with him and made their home in and around Hebron. The citizens of Judah came to Hebron, and then and there made David king over the clans of Judah. A report was brought to David that the men of Jabesh Gilead had given Saul a decent burial. David sent messengers to the men of Jabesh Gilead: “God bless you for this—for honoring your master, Saul, with a funeral. God honor you and be true to you—and I’ll do the same, matching your generous act of goodness. Strengthen your resolve and do what must be done. Your master, Saul, is dead. The citizens of Judah have made me their king.” * * * In the meantime, Abner son of Ner, commander of Saul’s army, had taken Saul’s son Ish-Bosheth to Mahanaim and made him king over Gilead, over Asher, over Jezreel, over Ephraim, over Benjamin—king, as it turns out, over all Israel. Ish-Bosheth, Saul’s son, was forty years old when he was made king over Israel. He lasted only two years. But the people of Judah stuck with David. David ruled the people of Judah from Hebron for seven and a half years. One day Abner son of Ner set out from Mahanaim with the soldiers of Ish-Bosheth son of Saul, headed for Gibeon. Joab son of Zeruiah, with David’s soldiers, also set out. They met at the Pool of Gibeon, Abner’s group on one side, Joab’s on the other. Abner challenged Joab, “Put up your best fighters. Let’s see them do their stuff.” Joab said, “Good! Let them go at it!” So they lined up for the fight, twelve Benjaminites from the side of Ish-Bosheth son of Saul, and twelve soldiers from David’s side. The men from each side grabbed their opponents’ heads and stabbed them with their daggers. They all fell dead—the whole bunch together. So, they called the place Slaughter Park. It’s right there at Gibeon. The fighting went from bad to worse throughout the day. Abner and the men of Israel were beaten to a pulp by David’s men. The three sons of Zeruiah were present: Joab, Abishai, and Asahel. Asahel, as fast as a wild antelope on the open plain, chased Abner, staying hard on his heels. Abner turned and said, “Is that you, Asahel?” “It surely is,” he said. Abner said, “Let up on me. Pick on someone you have a chance of beating and be content with those spoils!” But Asahel wouldn’t let up. Abner tried again, “Turn back. Don’t force me to kill you. How would I face your brother Joab?” When he refused to quit, Abner struck him in the belly with the blunt end of his spear so hard that it came out his back. Asahel fell to the ground and died at once. Everyone who arrived at the spot where Asahel fell and died stood and gaped—Asahel dead! But Joab and Abishai kept up the chase after Abner. As the sun began to set, they came to the hill of Ammah that faced Giah on the road to the backcountry of Gibeon. The Benjaminites had taken their stand with Abner there, deployed strategically on a hill. Abner called out to Joab, “Are we going to keep killing each other till doomsday? Don’t you know that nothing but bitterness will come from this? How long before you call off your men from chasing their brothers?” “As God lives,” said Joab, “if you hadn’t spoken up, we’d have kept up the chase until morning!” Then he blew the ram’s horn trumpet and the whole army of Judah stopped in its tracks. They quit chasing Israel and called off the fighting. Abner and his soldiers marched all that night up the Arabah Valley. They crossed the Jordan and, after a long morning’s march, arrived at Mahanaim. After Joab returned from chasing Abner, he took a head count of the army. Nineteen of David’s men (besides Asahel) were missing. David’s men had cut down 360 of Abner’s men, all Benjaminites—all dead. They brought Asahel and buried him in the family tomb in Bethlehem. Joab and his men then marched all night, arriving in Hebron as the dawn broke.
2 Samuel 2:1-32 MSG
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Shortly after Saul died, David returned to Ziklag from his rout of the Amalekites. Three days later a man showed up unannounced from Saul’s army camp. Disheveled and obviously in mourning, he fell to his knees in respect before David. David asked, “What brings you here?” He answered, “I’ve just escaped from the camp of Israel.” “So what happened?” said David. “What’s the news?” He said, “The Israelites have fled the battlefield, leaving a lot of their dead comrades behind. And Saul and his son Jonathan are dead.” David pressed the young soldier for details: “How do you know for sure that Saul and Jonathan are dead?” “I just happened by Mount Gilboa and came on Saul, badly wounded and leaning on his spear, with enemy chariots and horsemen bearing down hard on him. He looked behind him, saw me, and called me to him. ‘Yes sir,’ I said, ‘at your service.’ He asked me who I was, and I told him, ‘I’m an Amalekite.’” “Come here,” he said, “and put me out of my misery. I’m nearly dead already, but my life hangs on.” “So I did what he asked—I killed him. I knew he wouldn’t last much longer anyway. I removed his royal headband and bracelet, and have brought them to my master. Here they are.” In lament, David ripped his clothes to ribbons. All the men with him did the same. They wept and fasted the rest of the day, grieving the death of Saul and his son Jonathan, and also the army of God and the nation Israel, victims in a failed battle. Then David spoke to the young soldier who had brought the report: “Who are you, anyway?” “I’m from an immigrant family—an Amalekite.” “Do you mean to say,” said David, “that you weren’t afraid to up and kill God’s anointed king?” Right then he ordered one of his soldiers, “Strike him dead!” The soldier struck him, and he died. “You asked for it,” David told him. “You sealed your death sentence when you said you killed God’s anointed king.” Then David sang this lament over Saul and his son Jonathan, and gave orders that everyone in Judah learn it by heart. Yes, it’s even inscribed in The Book of Jashar. Oh, oh, Gazelles of Israel, struck down on your hills, the mighty warriors—fallen, fallen! Don’t announce it in the city of Gath, don’t post the news in the streets of Ashkelon. Don’t give those coarse Philistine girls one more excuse for a drunken party! No more dew or rain for you, hills of Gilboa, and not a drop from springs and wells, For there the warriors’ shields were dragged through the mud, Saul’s shield left there to rot. Jonathan’s bow was bold— the bigger they were the harder they fell. Saul’s sword was fearless— once out of the scabbard, nothing could stop it. Saul and Jonathan—beloved, beautiful! Together in life, together in death. Swifter than plummeting eagles, stronger than proud lions. Women of Israel, weep for Saul. He dressed you in finest cottons and silks, spared no expense in making you elegant. The mighty warriors—fallen, fallen in the middle of the fight! Jonathan—struck down on your hills! O my dear brother Jonathan, I’m crushed by your death. Your friendship was a miracle-wonder, love far exceeding anything I’ve known— or ever hope to know. The mighty warriors—fallen, fallen. And the arms of war broken to bits.
2 Samuel 1:1-2, 2-27 MSG
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Well, heck! I didn’t realize that we were this close to the end of 1 Samuel. Anywho, I might as well go ahead and post this one and tomorrow we’ll start on 2 Samuel.
The Philistines made war on Israel. The men of Israel were in full retreat from the Philistines, falling left and right, wounded on Mount Gilboa. The Philistines caught up with Saul and his sons. They killed Jonathan, Abinadab, and Malki-Shua, Saul’s sons. The battle was hot and heavy around Saul. The archers got his range and wounded him badly. Saul said to his weapon bearer, “Draw your sword and put me out of my misery, lest these pagan pigs come and make a game out of killing me.” But his weapon bearer wouldn’t do it. He was terrified. So Saul took the sword himself and fell on it. When the weapon bearer saw that Saul was dead, he too fell on his sword and died with him. So Saul, his three sons, and his weapon bearer—the men closest to him—died together that day. When the Israelites in the valley opposite and those on the other side of the Jordan saw that their army was in full retreat and that Saul and his sons were dead, they left their cities and ran for their lives. The Philistines moved in and occupied the sites. The next day, when the Philistines came to rob the dead, they found Saul and his three sons dead on Mount Gilboa. They cut off Saul’s head and stripped off his armor. Then they spread the good news all through Philistine country in the shrines of their idols and among the people. They displayed his armor in the shrine of the Ashtoreth. They nailed his corpse to the wall at Beth Shan. The people of Jabesh Gilead heard what the Philistines had done to Saul. Their valiant men sprang into action. They traveled all night, took the corpses of Saul and his three sons from the wall at Beth Shan, and carried them back to Jabesh and burned off the flesh. They then buried the bones under the tamarisk tree in Jabesh and fasted in mourning for seven days.
1 Samuel 31:1-4, 4-13 MSG
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I have extra time again today, so here’s another chapter.
Three days later, David and his men arrived back in Ziklag. Amalekites had raided the Negev and Ziklag. They tore Ziklag to pieces and then burned it down. They captured all the women, young and old. They didn’t kill anyone, but drove them like a herd of cattle. By the time David and his men entered the village, it had been burned to the ground, and their wives, sons, and daughters all taken prisoner. David and his men burst out in loud wails—wept and wept until they were exhausted with weeping. David’s two wives, Ahinoam of Jezreel and Abigail widow of Nabal of Carmel, had been taken prisoner along with the rest. And suddenly David was in even worse trouble. There was talk among the men, bitter over the loss of their families, of stoning him. David strengthened himself with trust in his God. He ordered Abiathar the priest, son of Ahimelech, “Bring me the Ephod so I can consult God.” Abiathar brought it to David. Then David prayed to God, “Shall I go after these raiders? Can I catch them?” The answer came, “Go after them! Yes, you’ll catch them! Yes, you’ll make the rescue!” David went, he and the six hundred men with him. They arrived at the Brook Besor, where some of them dropped out. David and four hundred men kept up the pursuit, but two hundred of them were too fatigued to cross the Brook Besor, and stayed there. Some who went on came across an Egyptian in a field and took him to David. They gave him bread and he ate. And he drank some water. They gave him a piece of fig cake and a couple of raisin muffins. Life began to revive in him. He hadn’t eaten or drunk a thing for three days and nights! David said to him, “Who do you belong to? Where are you from?” “I’m an Egyptian slave of an Amalekite,” he said. “My master walked off and left me when I got sick—that was three days ago. We had raided the Negev of the Kerethites, of Judah, and of Caleb. Ziklag we burned.” David asked him, “Can you take us to the raiders?” “Promise me by God,” he said, “that you won’t kill me or turn me over to my old master, and I’ll take you straight to the raiders.” He led David to them. They were scattered all over the place, eating and drinking, gorging themselves on all the loot they had plundered from Philistia and Judah. David pounced. He fought them from before sunrise until evening of the next day. None got away except for four hundred of the younger men who escaped by riding off on camels. David rescued everything the Amalekites had taken. And he rescued his two wives! Nothing and no one was missing—young or old, son or daughter, plunder or whatever. David recovered the whole lot. He herded the sheep and cattle before them, and they all shouted, “David’s plunder!” Then David came to the two hundred who had been too tired to continue with him and had dropped out at the Brook Besor. They came out to welcome David and his band. As he came near he called out, “Success!” But all the mean-spirited men who had marched with David, the rabble element, objected: “They didn’t help in the rescue, they don’t get any of the plunder we recovered. Each man can have his wife and children, but that’s it. Take them and go!” “Families don’t do this sort of thing! Oh no, my brothers!” said David as he broke up the argument. “You can’t act this way with what God gave us! God kept us safe. He handed over the raiders who attacked us. Who would ever listen to this kind of talk? The share of the one who stays with the gear is the share of the one who fights—equal shares. Share and share alike!” From that day on, David made that the rule in Israel—and it still is. On returning to Ziklag, David sent portions of the plunder to the elders of Judah, his neighbors, with a note saying, “A gift from the plunder of God’s enemies!” He sent them to the elders in Bethel, Ramoth Negev, Jattir, Aroer, Siphmoth, Eshtemoa, Racal, Jerahmeelite cities, Kenite cities, Hormah, Bor Ashan, Athach, and Hebron, along with a number of other places David and his men went to from time to time.
1 Samuel 30:1-6, 6-31 MSG
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The Philistines mustered all their troops at Aphek. Meanwhile Israel had made camp at the spring at Jezreel. As the Philistine warLords marched forward by regiments and divisions, David and his men were bringing up the rear with Achish. The Philistine officers said, “What business do these Hebrews have being here?” Achish answered the officers, “Don’t you recognize David, ex-servant of King Saul of Israel? He’s been with me a long time. I’ve found nothing to be suspicious of, nothing to complain about, from the day he defected from Saul until now.” Angry with Achish, the Philistine officers said, “Send this man back to where he came from. Let him stick to his normal duties. He’s not going into battle with us. He’d switch sides in the middle of the fight! What better chance to get back in favor with his master than by stabbing us in the back! Isn’t this the same David they celebrate at their parties, singing, Saul kills by the thousand, David by the ten thousand!” So Achish had to send for David and tell him, “As God lives, you’ve been a trusty ally—excellent in all the ways you have worked with me, beyond reproach in the ways you have conducted yourself. But the warLords don’t see it that way. So it’s best that you leave peacefully, now. It’s not worth it, displeasing the Philistine warLords.” “But what have I done?” said David. “Have you had a single cause for complaint from the day I joined up with you until now? Why can’t I fight against the enemies of my master the king?” “I agree,” said Achish. “You’re a good man—as far as I’m concerned, God’s angel! But the Philistine officers were emphatic: ‘He’s not to go with us into battle.’ So get an early start, you and the men who came with you. As soon as you have light enough to travel, go.” David rose early, he and his men, and by daybreak they were on their way back to Philistine country. The Philistines went on to Jezreel.
1 Samuel 29:1-11 MSG
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Another one, DJ Khalid!
During this time the Philistines mustered their troops to make war on Israel. Achish said to David, “You can count on this: You’re marching with my troops, you and your men.” And David said, “Good! Now you’ll see for yourself what I can do!” “Great!” said Achish. “I’m making you my personal bodyguard—for life!” Samuel was now dead. All Israel had mourned his death and buried him in Ramah, his hometown. Saul had long since cleaned out all those who held séances with the dead. The Philistines had mustered their troops and camped at Shunem. Saul had assembled all Israel and camped at Gilboa. But when Saul saw the Philistine troops, he shook in his boots, scared to death. Saul prayed to God, but God didn’t answer—neither by dream nor by sign nor by prophet. So Saul ordered his officials, “Find me someone who can call up spirits so I may go and seek counsel from those spirits.” His servants said, “There’s a witch at Endor.” Saul disguised himself by putting on different clothes. Then, taking two men with him, he went under the cover of night to the woman and said, “I want you to consult a ghost for me. Call up the person I name.” The woman said, “Just hold on now! You know what Saul did, how he swept the country clean of mediums. Why are you trying to trap me and get me killed?” Saul swore solemnly, “As God lives, you won’t get in any trouble for this.” The woman said, “So whom do you want me to bring up?” “Samuel. Bring me Samuel.” When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out loudly to Saul, “Why did you lie to me? You’re Saul!” The king told her, “You have nothing to fear…but what do you see?” “I see a spirit ascending from the underground.” “And what does he look like?” Saul asked. “An old man ascending, robed like a priest.” Saul knew it was Samuel. He fell down, face to the ground, and worshiped. Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by calling me up?” “Because I’m in deep trouble,” said Saul. “The Philistines are making war against me and God has deserted me—he doesn’t answer me any more, either by prophet or by dream. And so I’m calling on you to tell me what to do.” “Why ask me?” said Samuel. “God has turned away from you and is now on the side of your neighbor. God has done exactly what he told you through me—ripped the kingdom right out of your hands and given it to your neighbor. It’s because you did not obey God, refused to carry out his seething judgment on Amalek, that God does to you what he is doing today. Worse yet, God is turning Israel, along with you, over to the Philistines. Tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. And, yes, indeed, God is giving Israel’s army up to the Philistines.” Saul dropped to the ground, felled like a tree, terrified by Samuel’s words. There wasn’t an ounce of strength left in him—he’d eaten nothing all day and all night. The woman, realizing that he was in deep shock, said to him, “Listen to me. I did what you asked me to do, put my life in your hands in doing it, carried out your instructions to the letter. It’s your turn to do what I tell you: Let me give you some food. Eat it. It will give you strength so you can get on your way.” He refused. “I’m not eating anything.” But when his servants joined the woman in urging him, he gave in to their pleas, picked himself up off the ground, and sat on the bed. The woman moved swiftly. She butchered a grain-fed calf she had, and took some flour, kneaded it, and baked some flat bread. Then she served it all up for Saul and his servants. After dining handsomely, they got up from the table and were on their way that same night.
1 Samuel 28:1-25 MSG
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Forget Tarot cards and astrological signs, the witch of Endor ladies and gentlemen, is actual biblical proof that black magic, at the very least, existed in the Old Testament.
If you’ll remember we talked about this before:
“Don’t dabble in the occult or traffic with mediums; you’ll pollute your souls. I am God, your God.
Leviticus 19:31 MSG
“I will resolutely reject persons who dabble in the occult or traffic with mediums, prostituting themselves in their practices. I will cut them off from their people.
Leviticus 20:6 MSG
When you enter the land that God, your God, is giving you, don’t take on the abominable ways of life of the nations there. Don’t you dare sacrifice your son or daughter in the fire. Don’t practice divination, sorcery, fortunetelling, witchery, casting spells, holding séances, or channeling with the dead. People who do these things are an abomination to God. It’s because of just such abominable practices that God, your God, is driving these nations out before you. Be completely loyal to God, your God. These nations that you’re about to run out of the country consort with sorcerers and witches. But not you. God, your God, forbids it.
Deuteronomy 18:9-14 MSG
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David thought to himself, “Sooner or later, Saul’s going to get me. The best thing I can do is escape to Philistine country. Saul will count me a lost cause and quit hunting me down in every nook and cranny of Israel. I’ll be out of his reach for good.” So David left; he and his six hundred men went to Achish son of Maoch, king of Gath. They moved in and settled down in Gath, with Achish. Each man brought his household; David brought his two wives, Ahinoam of Jezreel and Abigail, widow of Nabal of Carmel. When Saul was told that David had escaped to Gath, he called off the hunt. Then David said to Achish, “If it’s agreeable to you, assign me a place in one of the rural villages. It doesn’t seem right that I, your mere servant, should be taking up space in the royal city.” So Achish assigned him Ziklag. (This is how Ziklag got to be what it is now, a city of the kings of Judah.) David lived in Philistine country a year and four months. From time to time David and his men raided the Geshurites, the Girzites, and the Amalekites—these people were longtime inhabitants of the land stretching toward Shur and on to Egypt. When David raided an area he left no one alive, neither man nor woman, but took everything else: sheep, cattle, donkeys, camels, clothing—the works. Then he’d return to Achish. Achish would ask, “And whom did you raid today?” David would tell him, “Oh, the Negev of Judah,” or “The Negev of Jerahmeel,” or “The Negev of the Kenites.” He never left a single person alive lest one show up in Gath and report what David had really been doing. This is the way David operated all the time he lived in Philistine country. Achish came to trust David completely. He thought, “He’s made himself so repugnant to his people that he’ll be in my camp forever.”
1 Samuel 27:1-12 MSG
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Some Ziphites came to Saul at Gibeah and said, “Did you know that David is hiding out on the Hakilah Hill just opposite Jeshimon?” Saul was on his feet in a minute and on his way to the wilderness of Ziph, taking three thousand of his best men, the pick of the crop, to hunt for David in that wild desert. He camped just off the road at the Hakilah Hill, opposite Jeshimon. David, still out in the backcountry, knew Saul had come after him. He sent scouts to determine his precise location. Then David set out and came to the place where Saul had set up camp and saw for himself where Saul and Abner, son of Ner, his general, were staying. Saul was safely inside the camp, encircled by the army. Taking charge, David spoke to Ahimelech the Hittite and to Abishai son of Zeruiah, Joab’s brother: “Who will go down with me and enter Saul’s camp?” Abishai whispered, “I’ll go with you.” So David and Abishai entered the encampment by night, and there he was—Saul, stretched out asleep at the center of the camp, his spear stuck in the ground near his head, with Abner and the troops sound asleep on all sides. Abishai said, “This is the moment! God has put your enemy in your grasp. Let me nail him to the ground with his spear. One hit will do it, believe me; I won’t need a second!” But David said to Abishai, “Don’t you dare hurt him! Who could lay a hand on God’s anointed and even think of getting away with it?” He went on, “As God lives, either God will strike him, or his time will come and he’ll die in bed, or he’ll fall in battle, but God forbid that I should lay a finger on God’s anointed. Now, grab the spear at his head and the water jug and let’s get out of here.” David took the spear and water jug that were right beside Saul’s head, and they slipped away. Not a soul saw. Not a soul knew. No one woke up! They all slept through the whole thing. A blanket of deep sleep from God had fallen on them. Then David went across to the opposite hill and stood far away on the top of the mountain. With this safe distance between them, he shouted across to the army and Abner son of Ner, “Hey, Abner! How long do I have to wait for you to wake up and answer me?” Abner said, “Who’s calling?” “Aren’t you in charge there?” said David. “Why aren’t you minding the store? Why weren’t you standing guard over your master the king, when a soldier came to kill the king your master? Bad form! As God lives, your life should be forfeit, you and the entire bodyguard. Look what I have—the king’s spear and water jug that were right beside his head!” By now, Saul had recognized David’s voice and said, “Is that you, my son David?” David said, “Yes, it’s me, O King, my master. Why are you after me, hunting me down? What have I done? What crime have I committed? Oh, my master, my king, listen to this from your servant: If God has stirred you up against me, then I gladly offer my life as a sacrifice. But if it’s men who have done it, let them be banished from God’s presence! They’ve expelled me from my rightful place in God’s heritage, sneering, ‘Out of here! Go get a job with some other god!’ But you’re not getting rid of me that easily; you’ll not separate me from God in life or death. The absurdity! The king of Israel obsessed with a single flea! Hunting me down—a mere partridge—out in the hills!” Saul confessed, “I’ve sinned! Oh, come back, my dear son David! I won’t hurt you anymore. You’ve honored me this day, treating my life as most precious. And I’ve acted the fool—a moral dunce, a real clown.” David answered, “See what I have here? The king’s spear. Let one of your servants come and get it. It’s God’s business to decide what to do with each of us in regard to what’s right and who’s loyal. God put your life in my hands today, but I wasn’t willing to lift a finger against God’s anointed. Just as I honored your life today, may God honor my life and rescue me from all trouble.” Saul said to David, “Bless you, dear son David! Yes, do what you have to do! And, yes, succeed in all you attempt!” Then David went on his way, and Saul went home.
1 Samuel 26:1-3, 3-25 MSG
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House of Saul
sounds like a badass BCS spinoff
I would not be surprised if it was.