If you’re a Christian or just want to learn about Christianity, c’mon and join us. Just to let you know what I usually do, I post a Bible chapter every day at any time between 5 and 11 A.M. U.S. central time, but we don’t have to stop there. We can make animations together, share Christian songs, parodies, comedy, sermons, and whatever else you want.
Now, just because I’m a little more light-hearted than some Christians doesn’t mean that this is all going to be fun and games. As a Christian, I have a responsibility to call out the things that God disapproves of. Some of the conversations we have might get a little hairy, and that’s okay, as long as we abide by the site’s community guidelines. 😊 You may ask, “If your goal is to draw people into God’s kingdom, why are you calling out things that He disapproves of? Wouldn’t that, for one, push people away from God and, for another, get you into fights that you don’t want to be in?” I will answer the first question with these verses:
James 5:20
“Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him”
Titus 2:15
“Let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins”
1 Timothy 5:20
“As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear”
2 Timothy 4:2
“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction”
Psalm 141:5
“Let a righteous man strike me — it is a kindness; let him rebuke me — it is oil for my head; let my head not refuse it”
Proverbs 9:8
“Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you”.
And for the second question, Christianity is a sacrifice. I will take on challenges as a Christian that I wouldn’t as a lukewarm Christian, an atheist, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Jew, etc. And when I encounter those challenges, I have to put my faith in Yahweh above my feelings and desires. I’m not supposed to store up treasures here on Earth, but in the heavenly kingdom. In order to do that, I have to be inconvenienced and mocked, and I’m fine with that. I’ve chosen to give up everything I want for my God.
If I post anything on here that has anything to do with my opinion or interpretation of a situation, 9 times out of 10, it’s because that is my interpretation of the Bible. I believe that that everything in the Bible is objectively true, there’s just debates on how to INTERPRET said truth. I try my hardest not to let my worldview effect my biblical view, though, it may seep through.
If you’re curious about the name, I had to think of something, so I came up with “Pest” Control (as atheists seem to think that the way we communicate our religion to them is annoying, so they could see us as pests, and we are all in one group so that we can contain the Christian stuff mostly inside the group for “control”).
Before I edited the description of this group, it said: “We can brainstorm to find out more ways to win atheists over to Christ.” Since I typed that, my beliefs have changed slightly. I believe that, yes it is great to have atheists have a change of heart, that’s one of our biggest goals is to have more people up in heaven, but we shouldn’t be intentionally TRYING to change their religion (both because it pushes people away from the religion, and it’s just not what any human needs to do to another human). We need to be ourselves around them, have them see how we are as a person, how Christianity (even if they can’t identify it as that) affects us, and if they want to, change. And we should never, ever, push them to change; the Bible even tells us this. I have made this mistake for years, and to all of the atheists and people with other religious beliefs that I have hurt by doing this, I’m so unbelievably sorry.
Thank you for your time. Have a blessed and wonderful day!
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Rejoice, nonbelievers! I\’m freaking done. If 99.999999999999% of everyone on this site hates my biblical opinions so much that anything outside of the normal Bible chapters gets me nothing but insults to both me and my God, why am I doing it? For the record, I\’m not upset because you disagree with me, but that you are so stubborn and REFUSE to even ENTERTAIN the idea that the Bible isn\’t just a fictional bedtime story and that doing the opposite of what we WANT to do is what we\’re supposed to do. You\’re right, Stick Nodes is for animation, I\’m the stupid stupid idiot that decided to do what the Bible told me to. Frick me…
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No worries man. Most people here have outright rejected the notion of religion and are antagonistic towards it. It’s just that the audience here is very small. Still, despite the fact, I appreciate you for spreading your word and posting Bible chapters despite the backlash from users. This site doesn’t take serious discussion, well, seriously lol.
And it’s not like it’s unwarranted. Many verses of the Bible outright antagonize aspects of their being, be it somebody’s sexuality, identity, or conduct. To be personally called out by that by some religious “Book” in their eyes would obviously be off putting. But don’t let it get to your head. It isn’t really an issue if you don’t try to forcefully push such an agenda onto people, hence, why you kept it in one group. If people want to engage, that’s on them. If they don’t, then it’s there for people who want to. Simple.
And if people want to be instigatory, then the faults on them. still, don’t conceive or give in and crashout, because it’ll end up worse in the end because of it. Trust me, alot of users who were disliked by the community put the final nail in their coffin after they let the pressure get to them and burst out.
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I don’t hate you per se, but how you go about your beleifs, specifically regarding homosexuality, transgender, and other related matters aggrivates me to my core. I dont care about your bible verse posting, some people enjoy it, theres a few christians here and they seem to like it, and i can respect that, and your beleifs, and their beleifs, because truthfully i dont care what people beleive in. but you have come here, multiple times, and the only times i will ever publicaly take issue with, is calling a vastly queer community, sinners not because of their actions, but because of their gender, romantic, or sexual orientation. its tone deaf, and you arent going to get anyone here to entertain shit like that, because it is offensive to us as people. now why should i care if im labled a sinner for existing, i dont beleive in god, but its more the principle of the matter, rather than the technicalities, as people who already have to deal with shit from the government, and other fucktwits who hate our guts, being called a sinner for simply living, something that, sure the bible says everyone is, but specifically calling out and labeling what we are as people, parts of our identity, as deserving of sin, is insulting. i do not think you hate queer people, i do not think you hate us, but the fact of the matter is, by sharing that same ideal, you insult us as people, and devalue who we are. thats my only issue, anyway, the rest of it, i may not agree with due to my personal beleifs, but it doesnt bother me as that does.
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Nobody hates you
Far from it but my god man just think from the other side as wellYou’ve posted post-gay conversion videos
Fucking wojak videos man , like I’m sorry but your beliefs are going to seem as vein or silly when you have egomaniacs posing as enlightened thinks , as the video sources you post 😭😭😭😭😭I’d say yea it’s for the better
I remember telling you months ago that it’s good to share your Bible verses and such with the site
But I didn’t think it derail into sharing “views” that would literally slash the 90% of the website’s lives apart-
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If I have to leave a few words
Be more open minded
Doesn’t mean you have to live by everyone else’s traditions and ways of lifeBelieve me , religious users like @downwardghostly and @firedino32 are some of if not the most beloved , respected , and influential users here from their sheer personalities and input alone
Even putting aside their StickNodes activity here , nobody here can ever say , they hate either , they’re both just that well adjusted and respected , and even when they bring in their own views on the Bible
You agree with them , not on just a religious level but on a human level
I’m sorry man but even your last video as , harmless as it was , it’s pretty heavy handed in terms of presentation and pompousness
A ton of us deal with sexuality and gender related issues and while we understand not everyone will , understand our views and such , we , as human beings of all walks of life , do not at all expect to see anti-gay or anti-trans sentiment
Or generally anything that goes far past just views and into honestly , pretty hateful territory-
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I’m sure no one here is against you posting verses but you legitimately do have to understand how fucked up it was to see videos of people , cleansing themselves of sinful sexuality
More power to people who no longer feel those emotions , even if it is from a religious root that those reasonings came from , as long as it’s something they chose and weren’t forced into , that’s their life
But regardless of their choice it’s fucked up to see that pushed as an example towards all gay people, all queer people
________My own life has legitimately been leagues better without religious beliefs
And I understand that , that fact alone is Hersey alone but in the same way that your views have shaped and formed your life , my current views are what let me finally live , they’re how I got with my own partner , how I’m going about my own friendships , how I’m dealing with my own hardships and how I come across my own happiness and my life’s path
This is far from me saying that religious beliefs helped me in no way , even from an outsiders source , Damien has been of my bestest friends ever , and I’m proud that he’s a pretty devout believer , but we all have different lives man
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youre a married man who posts biblical verses and opinions on an animation site im lke 70% you dont use anymore, since youre a married man
and i was doing some research since i think it was downward ghostly that told me to do so, and i came to a conclusionall of you christians and baptists and catholics and all that believe in god (capital g) and jesus all use the excuse that god called this a sin
but also, even if it is a sin, why are you using that to hate them? the bible states that love is love, which, even if it is a sin, thats no reason to hate someone over it (unless its murder, but thats different)
you stand here and preach that love is love, and yet you hate and hate for what? not because some bible says so, because you say so and you want to
thats why people “hate” (for the record i dont think anyone does) you
love is love, but on the other side of that same coin, hate is hateyour bible verses are fine, nobody really cares for that, and i havent really brought it up because i dont even care
but when you start talking about your opinions in a place full of the “new norm” its gonna get out of hand and lead to a lot of confrontation-
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I assure you, he doesn’t hate you, just because he disagrees with you doesn’t mean he hates you.
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he posts videos of people actively hating on lgbtq+ people
like that one video where he posted AND SIDED with a guy who was preaching at a pride festrival (for no reason)he hates queert people for being queer, or at the very least sides with them (im queer)
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Again. Since when was warning people hate? I just don’t get it. I really don’t, it’s not like the preacher was beating them with sticks or threatening to bury them alive. He’s (like I said before) just warning of things that they may not have even ever heard before, and what if some of those people there ARE looking for something like that? Should he stop spreading good news just because a few people get a little upset? What if his words change somebody’s life? For example if a Muslim came into a Church and started saying that his religion is right while theirs is wrong, it wouldn’t be right for the church to kick him out, instead they should sit him down and talk with him in the chance he may be right. We don’t know everything, and we’re subject to change.
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Yes “love is love”, and God considers it a sin (which you know) and you’re saying Jumpsh00ps supposedly hates you because he’s warning you of the dangers of sin. I understand that being told what you can and can’t do is frustrating however what he’s doing is warning and now that you’ve been told it’s of course up to you want to do next, no one’s saying it’s not. He’s not perfect but he’s doing what he’s called to do, and I do agree that it’s one thing to point out sin and another to shame someone for it because we’ve all sinned. He puts little descriptions on the videos he links to give his viewpoints and he never 100% agrees with everything they have to say 100% of the time, he does that to let people know where he stands. As for why it seems so targeted on gays and whatnot is because it’s such a massive topic nowadays in the Christian community now more than ever. He’s just telling you what the Bible says and the fate of those people, he wouldn’t want that for anyone and is warning people, that’s literally it. But maybe at times he is being a bit too much, and in cases where that’s true I’m sorry however there have also been cases where there are people in these comments that are posting memes and jokes of “themselves chilling in Hell” which he’s made as clear as day is nothing to joke about yet they treat it like some game and it makes me extremely sad to see. Anyways I hope my point gets across and that I haven’t made anyone to upset with siding with jumpsh00ps, I pray that God’s will is done in all our lives, Amen.
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im not reading all of this
it would piss me off too muc
someone told me one to do better
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even if people were to recognize that their identity was sin, theres no possible way to change it. you cant not be gay, or transgender, or what have you, thats not how that works. if you wanna argue gay conversion therapy, its been proven to be entirely harmful, and only a detriment to those involved. and, another thing, people joking about chilling in hell isnt sad, theyre taking pride in who they are as people, and not forcing change in themselves to appease a god, even if it means eternal damnation. now, truthfully i doubt any of us think that way when we say that, its all a joke because we dont beleive in hell. but its something to consider, true martyrdom for the self, is better than devotion to someone who isnt you. if my eternity is hell, then i embrace it because im proud of who i am today. nobodys going to listen, or respect someone who says their unchangable identity is an affront and will have them punished for eternity, whether they actually beleive in hell or not, its the principle, of being so devalued that you as a person, not by action or other, but by you simply BEING, is considered a affront, thats disrespectful, and anyone who shares that sentiment needs to change how they perceive the world around them, and take their head out of their fucking ass, and have some empathy. devaluing people to “save them from hell” isnt the sympathy you think it is
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i wanted to add, too, cause i dont think i got the pointr acros and its similar to what youre saying
its okay to sin and to be a sin
whats not okay is to hate someone or be prejudicial towards them for that
love is love is love as the bible apparently saaid, not love is love is hateits also, another thing to “warn them” of something or whatever if they come to you, but to support going after people at THEIR parade to just be an ass isnt
if you want further confirmation that the bible accepts queer people, i have no sources aside rom elenazonia if you know them
if i recall, elena is a trans woman who is also a christianidk thats all i got
the 12am argument motivation kicked in
this wasnt towards you btw cuss
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“Bible Man finally snaps” will be today’s DWD headline
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Honestly, man I completely understand your decision to step away from all this. Even if you “only” helped one person, I know God could turn that into something amazing, and even through all this hatred from others you continued on and kept posting which I heavily respect you for doing in the face of persecution. However just because this may be over don’t stop in doing good brother, Galatians 6:9 – “Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up, (10) Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.” Which it’s amazing that you kept up this long in the face of not only adversity but also in the hopes of HELPING those that cursed you, and for that I’m proud of you. Yet, they hate you because they hate Him. Whether these people broke you or you prayed about it, God understands your decision and maybe this is His will but regardless I know He’ll do great things with a man with your level of perseverance. Continue to strive for the man God wants you to be. You try and try to help these people that the world would call “your enemies” yet they spit in your face and on everything you stand for, you offer them a hand and they retaliate with insults, and ignorance, they don’t even try to understand you or His Word, they just hate you because they hate Him. Not sure why they do it, but I still know that they’re human beings, ones that have made their choice to hate you. In spite of that I’ll say that I can’t wait to see the type of man you’ll become in the future, and I pray that God guides you to do even better things than you’ve done before. Amen❤️
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it ain’t that serious bro
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a lot has been said here, some on point, some not, but to reiterate look my brother in christ (no pun intended), you can’t let it get to you like this
you can’t make a post with “If you want more reasons to despise every atom of my being, I’m handing them out freely…” and not expect something negative to come about from it
you were doing good with your posts, as a sort of “hey, if you have time check this out”
but you can’t really ask for more than that given the target demographic of the site and the main topic being nothing remotely in the same ballpark as this material
you very well may have changed some minds or at least gotten some people to think and be open to ideas, but if you just rage quit in a way like this, it sort of tarnishes it
not saying you have to continue, just don’t burn bridges
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Ima be honest like
We can’t cuff him for views and shit , god no but if he’s gonna share that type of shit *here* likeHoops you were doing good man just read the room , please
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what just happened
was anyone actually getting angry at you though
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Yes
Not really but annoyed is a better word
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What the other people said
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If you want more reasons to despise every atom of my being, I\’m handing them out freely…
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what if a religion that only exists in the middle of the rainforest and only has like 12 believers is the real one and we all burn in hell for believing in christianity.
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honestly that shit would be so funny, ive thought about that before
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I smell drama!
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why would you even post this lil bro
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Wojaks composed video
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2 Corinthians 3:1-18 MSG
[1-3] Does it sound like we’re patting ourselves on the back, insisting on our credentials, asserting our authority? Well, we’re not. Neither do we need letters of endorsement, either to you or from you. You yourselves are all the endorsement we need. Your very lives are a letter that anyone can read by just looking at you. Christ himself wrote it—not with ink, but with God’s living Spirit; not chiseled into stone, but carved into human lives—and we publish it. [4-6] We couldn’t be more sure of ourselves in this—that you, written by Christ himself for God, are our letter of recommendation. We wouldn’t think of writing this kind of letter about ourselves. Only God can write such a letter. His letter authorizes us to help carry out this new plan of action. The plan wasn’t written out with ink on paper, with pages and pages of legal footnotes, killing your spirit. It’s written with Spirit on spirit, his life on our lives! [7-8] The Government of Death, its constitution chiseled on stone tablets, had a dazzling inaugural. Moses’ face as he delivered the tablets was so bright that day (even though it would fade soon enough) that the people of Israel could no more look right at him than stare into the sun. How much more dazzling, then, the Government of Living Spirit? [9-11] If the Government of Condemnation was impressive, how about this Government of Affirmation? Bright as that old government was, it would look downright dull alongside this new one. If that makeshift arrangement impressed us, how much more this brightly shining government installed for eternity? [12-15] With that kind of hope to excite us, nothing holds us back. Unlike Moses, we have nothing to hide. Everything is out in the open with us. He wore a veil so the children of Israel wouldn’t notice that the glory was fading away—and they didn’t notice. They didn’t notice it then and they don’t notice it now, don’t notice that there’s nothing left behind that veil. Even today when the proclamations of that old, bankrupt government are read out, they can’t see through it. Only Christ can get rid of the veil so they can see for themselves that there’s nothing there. [16-18] Whenever, though, they turn to face God as Moses did, God removes the veil and there they are—face-to-face! They suddenly recognize that God is a living, personal presence, not a piece of chiseled stone. And when God is personally present, a living Spirit, that old, constricting legislation is recognized as obsolete. We’re free of it! All of us! Nothing between us and God, our faces shining with the brightness of his face. And so we are transfigured much like the Messiah, our lives gradually becoming brighter and more beautiful as God enters our lives and we become like him. -
2 Corinthians 2:1-17 MSG
[1-2] That’s why I decided not to make another visit that could only be painful to both of us. If by merely showing up I would put you in an embarrassingly painful position, how would you then be free to cheer and refresh me? [3-4] That was my reason for writing a letter instead of coming—so I wouldn’t have to spend a miserable time disappointing the very friends I had looked forward to cheering me up. I was convinced at the time I wrote it that what was best for me was also best for you. As it turned out, there was pain enough just in writing that letter, more tears than ink on the parchment. But I didn’t write it to cause pain; I wrote it so you would know how much I care—oh, more than care—love you! [5-8] Now, regarding the one who started all this—the person in question who caused all this pain—I want you to know that I am not the one injured in this as much as, with a few exceptions, all of you. So I don’t want to come down too hard. What the majority of you agreed to as punishment is punishment enough. Now is the time to forgive this man and help him back on his feet. If all you do is pour on the guilt, you could very well drown him in it. My counsel now is to pour on the love. [9-11] The focus of my letter wasn’t on punishing the offender but on getting you to take responsibility for the health of the church. So if you forgive him, I forgive him. Don’t think I’m carrying around a list of personal grudges. The fact is that I’m joining in with your forgiveness, as Christ is with us, guiding us. After all, we don’t want to unwittingly give Satan an opening for yet more mischief—we’re not oblivious to his sly ways! [12-14a] When I arrived in Troas to proclaim the Message of the Messiah, I found the place wide open: God had opened the door; all I had to do was walk through it. But when I didn’t find Titus waiting for me with news of your condition, I couldn’t relax. Worried about you, I left and came on to Macedonia province looking for Titus and a reassuring word on you. And I got it, thank God! [14b-16a] In the Messiah, in Christ, God leads us from place to place in one perpetual victory parade. Through us, he brings knowledge of Christ. Everywhere we go, people breathe in the exquisite fragrance. Because of Christ, we give off a sweet scent rising to God, which is recognized by those on the way of salvation—an aroma redolent with life. But those on the way to destruction treat us more like the stench from a rotting corpse. [16b-17] This is a terrific responsibility. Is anyone competent to take it on? No—but at least we don’t take God’s Word, water it down, and then take it to the streets to sell it cheap. We stand in Christ’s presence when we speak; God looks us in the face. We get what we say straight from God and say it as honestly as we can. -
Now, we\’re going through 2 Corinthians!
2 Corinthians 1:1-24 MSG
[1-2] I, Paul, have been sent on a special mission by the Messiah, Jesus, planned by God himself. I write this to God’s congregation in Corinth, and to believers all over Achaia province. May all the gifts and benefits that come from God our Father and the Master, Jesus Christ, be yours! Timothy, someone you know and trust, joins me in this greeting. [3-5] All praise to the God and Father of our Master, Jesus the Messiah! Father of all mercy! God of all healing counsel! He comes alongside us when we go through hard times, and before you know it, he brings us alongside someone else who is going through hard times so that we can be there for that person just as God was there for us. We have plenty of hard times that come from following the Messiah, but no more so than the good times of his healing comfort—we get a full measure of that, too. [6-7] When we suffer for Jesus, it works out for your healing and salvation. If we are treated well, given a helping hand and encouraging word, that also works to your benefit, spurring you on, face forward, unflinching. Your hard times are also our hard times. When we see that you’re just as willing to endure the hard times as to enjoy the good times, we know you’re going to make it, no doubt about it. [8-11] We don’t want you in the dark, friends, about how hard it was when all this came down on us in Asia province. It was so bad we didn’t think we were going to make it. We felt like we’d been sent to death row, that it was all over for us. As it turned out, it was the best thing that could have happened. Instead of trusting in our own strength or wits to get out of it, we were forced to trust God totally—not a bad idea since he’s the God who raises the dead! And he did it, rescued us from certain doom. And he’ll do it again, rescuing us as many times as we need rescuing. You and your prayers are part of the rescue operation—I don’t want you in the dark about that either. I can see your faces even now, lifted in praise for God’s deliverance of us, a rescue in which your prayers played such a crucial part. [12-14] Now that the worst is over, we’re pleased we can report that we’ve come out of this with conscience and faith intact, and can face the world—and even more importantly, face you with our heads held high. But it wasn’t by any fancy footwork on our part. It was God who kept us focused on him, uncompromised. Don’t try to read between the lines or look for hidden meanings in this letter. We’re writing plain, unembellished truth, hoping that you’ll now see the whole picture as well as you’ve seen some of the details. We want you to be as proud of us as we are of you when we stand together before our Master Jesus. [15-16] Confident of your welcome, I had originally planned two great visits with you—coming by on my way to Macedonia province, and then again on my return trip. Then we could have had a bon-voyage party as you sent me off to Judea. That was the plan. [17-19] Are you now going to accuse me of flip-flopping with my promises because it didn’t work out? Do you think I talk out of both sides of my mouth—a glib yes one moment, a glib no the next? Well, you’re wrong. I try to be as true to my word as God is to his. Our word to you wasn’t a careless yes canceled by an indifferent no. How could it be? When Silas and Timothy and I proclaimed the Son of God among you, did you pick up on any yes-and-no, on-again, off-again waffling? Wasn’t it a clean, strong Yes? [20-22] Whatever God has promised gets stamped with the Yes of Jesus. In him, this is what we preach and pray, the great Amen, God’s Yes and our Yes together, gloriously evident. God affirms us, making us a sure thing in Christ, putting his Yes within us. By his Spirit he has stamped us with his eternal pledge—a sure beginning of what he is destined to complete. [23] Now, are you ready for the real reason I didn’t visit you in Corinth? As God is my witness, the only reason I didn’t come was to spare you pain. I was being considerate of you, not indifferent, not manipulative. [24] We’re not in charge of how you live out the faith, looking over your shoulders, suspiciously critical. We’re partners, working alongside you, joyfully expectant. I know that you stand by your own faith, not by ours. -
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This is the last chapter of 1 Corinthians. Next up is Paul’s follow-up letter to the church of Corinth after they had received this 1st letter and corrected their theology accordingly.
1 Corinthians 16:1-24 MSG
[1-4] Regarding the relief offering for poor Christians that is being collected, you get the same instructions I gave the churches in Galatia. Every Sunday each of you make an offering and put it in safekeeping. Be as generous as you can. When I get there you’ll have it ready, and I won’t have to make a special appeal. Then after I arrive, I’ll write letters authorizing whomever you delegate, and send them off to Jerusalem to deliver your gift. If you think it best that I go along, I’ll be glad to travel with them. [5-9] I plan to visit you after passing through northern Greece. I won’t be staying long there, but maybe I can stay awhile with you—maybe even spend the winter? Then you could give me a good send-off, wherever I may be headed next. I don’t want to just drop by in between other “primary” destinations. I want a good, long, leisurely visit. If the Master agrees, we’ll have it! For the present, I’m staying right here in Ephesus. A huge door of opportunity for good work has opened up here. (There is also mushrooming opposition.) [10-11] If Timothy shows up, take good care of him. Make him feel completely at home among you. He works so hard for the Master, just as I do. Don’t let anyone disparage him. After a while, send him on to me with your blessing. Tell him I’m expecting him, and any friends he has with him. [12] About our friend Apollos, I’ve done my best to get him to pay you a visit, but haven’t talked him into it yet. He doesn’t think this is the right time. But there will be a “right time.” [13-14] Keep your eyes open, hold tight to your convictions, give it all you’ve got, be resolute, and love without stopping. [15-16] Would you do me a favor, friends, and give special recognition to the family of Stephanas? You know, they were among the first converts in Greece, and they’ve put themselves out, serving Christians ever since then. I want you to honor and look up to people like that: companions and workers who show us how to do it, giving us something to aspire to. [17-18] I want you to know how delighted I am to have Stephanas, Fortunatus, and Achaicus here with me. They partially make up for your absence! They’ve refreshed me by keeping me in touch with you. Be proud that you have people like this among you. [19] The churches here in western Asia send greetings. Aquila, Priscilla, and the church that meets in their house say hello. [20] All the friends here say hello. Pass the greetings around with holy hugs! [21] And I, Paul—in my own handwriting!—send you my regards. [22] If anyone won’t love the Master, throw him out. Make room for the Master! [23] Our Master Jesus has his arms wide open for you. [24] And I love all of you in the Messiah, in Jesus. -
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1 Corinthians 15:1-58 MSG
[1-2] Friends, let me go over the Message with you one final time—this Message that I proclaimed and that you made your own; this Message on which you took your stand and by which your life has been saved. (I’m assuming, now, that your belief was the real thing and not a passing fancy, that you’re in this for good and holding fast.) [3-9] The first thing I did was place before you what was placed so emphatically before me: that the Messiah died for our sins, exactly as Scripture tells it; that he was buried; that he was raised from death on the third day, again exactly as Scripture says; that he presented himself alive to Peter, then to his closest followers, and later to more than five hundred of his followers all at the same time, most of them still around (although a few have since died); that he then spent time with James and the rest of those he commissioned to represent him; and that he finally presented himself alive to me. It was fitting that I bring up the rear. I don’t deserve to be included in that inner circle, as you well know, having spent all those early years trying my best to stamp God’s church right out of existence. [10-11] But because God was so gracious, so very generous, here I am. And I’m not about to let his grace go to waste. Haven’t I worked hard trying to do more than any of the others? Even then, my work didn’t amount to all that much. It was God giving me the work to do, God giving me the energy to do it. So whether you heard it from me or from those others, it’s all the same: We spoke God’s truth and you entrusted your lives. [12-15] Now, let me ask you something profound yet troubling. If you became believers because you trusted the proclamation that Christ is alive, risen from the dead, how can you let people say that there is no such thing as a resurrection? If there’s no resurrection, there’s no living Christ. And face it—if there’s no resurrection for Christ, everything we’ve told you is smoke and mirrors, and everything you’ve staked your life on is smoke and mirrors. Not only that, but we would be guilty of telling a string of barefaced lies about God, all these affidavits we passed on to you verifying that God raised up Christ—sheer fabrications, if there’s no resurrection. [16-20] If corpses can’t be raised, then Christ wasn’t, because he was indeed dead. And if Christ weren’t raised, then all you’re doing is wandering about in the dark, as lost as ever. It’s even worse for those who died hoping in Christ and resurrection, because they’re already in their graves. If all we get out of Christ is a little inspiration for a few short years, we’re a pretty sorry lot. But the truth is that Christ has been raised up, the first in a long legacy of those who are going to leave the cemeteries. [21-28] There is a nice symmetry in this: Death initially came by a man, and resurrection from death came by a man. Everybody dies in Adam; everybody comes alive in Christ. But we have to wait our turn: Christ is first, then those with him at his Coming, the grand consummation when, after crushing the opposition, he hands over his kingdom to God the Father. He won’t let up until the last enemy is down—and the very last enemy is death! As the psalmist said, “He laid them low, one and all; he walked all over them.” When Scripture says that “he walked all over them,” it’s obvious that he couldn’t at the same time be walked on. When everything and everyone is finally under God’s rule, the Son will step down, taking his place with everyone else, showing that God’s rule is absolutely comprehensive—a perfect ending! [29] Why do you think people offer themselves to be baptized for those already in the grave? If there’s no chance of resurrection for a corpse, if God’s power stops at the cemetery gates, why do we keep doing things that suggest he’s going to clean the place out someday, pulling everyone up on their feet alive? [30-33] And why do you think I keep risking my neck in this dangerous work? I look death in the face practically every day I live. Do you think I’d do this if I wasn’t convinced of your resurrection and mine as guaranteed by the resurrected Messiah Jesus? Do you think I was just trying to act heroic when I fought the wild beasts at Ephesus, hoping it wouldn’t be the end of me? Not on your life! It’s resurrection, resurrection, always resurrection, that undergirds what I do and say, the way I live. If there’s no resurrection, “We eat, we drink, the next day we die,” and that’s all there is to it. But don’t fool yourselves. Don’t let yourselves be poisoned by this anti-resurrection loose talk. “Bad company ruins good manners.” [34] Think straight. Awaken to the holiness of life. No more playing fast and loose with resurrection facts. Ignorance of God is a luxury you can’t afford in times like these. Aren’t you embarrassed that you’ve let this kind of thing go on as long as you have? [35-38] Some skeptic is sure to…[Read more] -
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this is why I’m gunning down Jesus first thing when I see him
His bitch ass dick rides his own father , that’s cringe and disgusting
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what do you mean
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.23 seconds into the video
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babes i thought you meant like physically
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dont christians also tend to love to use the term “god-fearing”
actively fearing god and then forcing their kids and grandkids to also be god-fearing
or like, using the show “young sheldon” as an example, thje baptist christian mother woman made her 17 year old marry a 29 year old just bnecause the 17 year old got the 29 year old pregnant and they didnt wanna be wedlock
and then it caused her to get kicked out of her job at a churchliterally forcing their kids to marry someone just so that they dont get struck down my jesus
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– God fearing more so means respect for God rather then being outright terrified of him. Granted assuming you believe he’s real you can be fearful of his power, but it’s really out of respect or rebalance rather then fear he’s going to randomly snap you out of existence
– Also I wouldn’t really use Young Sheldon as an example. I get it’s to show the point of what you mean but I’ve seen the arguments the shows given and most are pretty straw-manned or out of date for current atheist-christian debates
– Of course that example can happen, but that doesn’t mean that’s a good thing either. A good church wouldn’t force a marriage between someone underaged and an adult (or 2 underaged people) or kick out the minor for something like that. By Christian beliefs we all sin so we can’t judge someone, especially someone that young. Of course when it’s in the territory of a large crime like the 29 Year old that’s a different story.
(Edit realized I should of been more clear in case I wasn’t already. A church should never force a minor into a marriage, or arraigned marriages in general. That’s an issue with an individual church having bad interpretations or leaders having serious issues rather then the faith as a whole).
– And lastly no the kid wouldn’t get struck down by Jesus that’s just not biblical. Jesus isn’t going to zap you if you lie or burn you if you stole a candy bar
I know you have a lot of critiques and questions about Christianity, so I’d recommend looking into what Christian scholars say or the Bible. As a lot of these things you bring up are beliefs culture thinks Christianity is like rather then what it actually says. Granted, Christians modern day also need to do a good job of representing it correctly that’s defiantly an issue. But I also think you should go to the source to judge it more fairly.
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I couldn’t have put it better myself.
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its part of my moral code to nev er read the bible
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because i dont like religion, religious things or anything like that
young sheldon is the ONLY pass because my grandparents used to watch it and i love big bang theoryreligion just doesnt make sense to me, its boring and i dont really follow it
thats not to say i dont believe in a big guy up there
its probably not a guy though, moreso just like
zero or something, the universe
i just dont put my life into it or pray to it
i think doing that is stupid because why live your childhood life doing what your parents tell you, and then also what some guy in the sky tells you for the rest of your life
that doesnt maek sense
i want free will for my life after childhoodand the bible is moreso just a fictional ass story to me than something thats real
why in any sense would you believe that hundreds of years ago, this ONE guy got to be revived multiple times and was able to heal people by touching them
that doesnt make sense, its fictional
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– Most of these points are personal opinion which is totally fine. We’re all free to chose to believe it or not, and that goes for all faiths, and I respect your belief to not. Though I will mention, I don’t think it’s great to be willfully ignorant on the faith since you hate it. I believe it’s best to at least see what the Bible says so that you can have further justification against it that’s accurate. As some points you’ve mentioned like I said above aren’t actually accurate to what the faith claims/is. Of course it’s fully your choice and I don’t want to put pressure on you too read/research it, but just my opinion.
– Finally, even though you won’t be reading it, with the end part, the Bible, namely the New Testament is generally considered true by scholars (not counting the miracles since that’s not their field. Some either don’t comment or chose the validity based on their personal belief).
Not going to get into all the details since we’ll be here forever and it’s still a long debate regarding the Bible as whole. But main point, the gospels were eye witness accounts, and almost the rest were letters from a guy name Paul. Old Testament is a mix of stories, eye witness accounts, laws of the time, and kinda like diaries but from kings. Of course you can still see stuff like the miracles or the stories as false, that’s for everyone to decide since we weren’t there. But a lot of it was genuinely historical and actually did happen. Though I of course believe it all did happen.
I’ll leave you with this video. You don’t have to watch it of course but I think it’s a good video. It provides studies for its claims, and gives a general history on what the faith has actually done for the world.
I hope this at least makes you more open minded about Christianity though fully understand if not. Again your full right to believe whatever you want this is all just my opinion. I’m happy you’re open to this dialogue and I genuinely appreciate it
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i lived with christianity/catholic most of my life because of my grandparents and thats generally why i dont like it because they were so intermittent on the fact that it was true and jesus is real, which is not something i think would ever happen because really, a guy who can grant people the gift of sight, hearing, and mobility if they dont have that?? come on, how could fthat at all be real unless theyre a fucking doctor
on another note, of course christianity chanbged the world
with terms like “jesus christ!” and “dear god!” being used by ppeople who dont believe in them, its been revolutionary
generally though god is more ambiguous since there can be more than one god depending o nreligions or a non religious god-
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At least off the Jesus was real part, he was. It’s one of the most historically agreed upon facts ever. But the miracles is a whole other thing and goes back to the point of it’s for you to decide is it false or true.
If you felt forced into the faith I’m really sorry that was the case. We shouldn’t be forcing people to be Christian that’s anti biblical. I think it’s fine to raise your kids Christian but they should never feel forced into that path and sorry again if that’s what happened.
With the bottom part, I agree, maybe there can be multiple gods, just one, or even none. I think personally Christianity got it right based off the evidence and my research but I’m open to following the data. If it’s disapproved I hope I can uncover the correct god(s) or know if there is none. But at least right now my research has lead me here and I’ve never personally felt happier/more free in life
Again don’t want to push you to watch the video but I do recommend it. I think you’d be surprised what the faith has actually done for the world.
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the correct god is me
no but i do think that the one true god is most likely just nature
not nature as in plants, but nature as in the nature of life and the universe and such
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I get where you’re coming from. I have a friend or two with similar mindset on it. I personally wouldn’t define a god as something the universe or Mother Nature would qualify as, however I get why that’d be your belief and I fully respect it.
My main point with this dialogue though, is I hope you can be open minded to religion, more specifically Christianity. I think with open mindedness in general we all as a society/species would be more happy and tolerant of each other, and in that way lead to a whole lot of good.
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Jumphoops drama VI: THE PROPOGANDA STRIKES BACK
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1 Corinthians 14:1-40 MSG
[1-3] Go after a life of love as if your life depended on it—because it does. Give yourselves to the gifts God gives you. Most of all, try to proclaim his truth. If you praise him in the private language of tongues, God understands you but no one else does, for you are sharing intimacies just between you and him. But when you proclaim his truth in everyday speech, you’re letting others in on the truth so that they can grow and be strong and experience his presence with you. [4-5] The one who prays using a private “prayer language” certainly gets a lot out of it, but proclaiming God’s truth to the church in its common language brings the whole church into growth and strength. I want all of you to develop intimacies with God in prayer, but please don’t stop with that. Go on and proclaim his clear truth to others. It’s more important that everyone have access to the knowledge and love of God in language everyone understands than that you go off and cultivate God’s presence in a mysterious prayer language—unless, of course, there is someone who can interpret what you are saying for the benefit of all. [6-8] Think, friends: If I come to you and all I do is pray privately to God in a way only he can understand, what are you going to get out of that? If I don’t address you plainly with some insight or truth or proclamation or teaching, what help am I to you? If musical instruments—flutes, say, or harps—aren’t played so that each note is distinct and in tune, how will anyone be able to catch the melody and enjoy the music? If the trumpet call can’t be distinguished, will anyone show up for the battle? [9-12] So if you speak in a way no one can understand, what’s the point of opening your mouth? There are many languages in the world and they all mean something to someone. But if I don’t understand the language, it’s not going to do me much good. It’s no different with you. Since you’re so eager to participate in what God is doing, why don’t you concentrate on doing what helps everyone in the church? [13-17] So, when you pray in your private prayer language, don’t hoard the experience for yourself. Pray for the insight and ability to bring others into that intimacy. If I pray in tongues, my spirit prays but my mind lies fallow, and all that intelligence is wasted. So what’s the solution? The answer is simple enough. Do both. I should be spiritually free and expressive as I pray, but I should also be thoughtful and mindful as I pray. I should sing with my spirit, and sing with my mind. If you give a blessing using your private prayer language, which no one else understands, how can some outsider who has just shown up and has no idea what’s going on know when to say “Amen”? Your blessing might be beautiful, but you have very effectively cut that person out of it. [18-19] I’m grateful to God for the gift of praying in tongues that he gives us for praising him, which leads to wonderful intimacies we enjoy with him. I enter into this as much or more than any of you. But when I’m in a church assembled for worship, I’d rather say five words that everyone can understand and learn from than say ten thousand that sound to others like gibberish. [20-25] To be perfectly frank, I’m getting exasperated with your childish thinking. How long before you grow up and use your head—your adult head? It’s all right to have a childlike unfamiliarity with evil; a simple no is all that’s needed there. But there’s far more to saying yes to something. Only mature and well-exercised intelligence can save you from falling into gullibility. It’s written in Scripture that God said, In strange tongues and from the mouths of strangers I will preach to this people, but they’ll neither listen nor believe. So where does it get you, all this speaking in tongues no one understands? It doesn’t help believers, and it only gives unbelievers something to gawk at. Plain truth-speaking, on the other hand, goes straight to the heart of believers and doesn’t get in the way of unbelievers. If you come together as a congregation and some unbelieving outsiders walk in on you as you’re all praying in tongues, unintelligible to each other and to them, won’t they assume you’ve taken leave of your senses and get out of there as fast as they can? But if some unbelieving outsiders walk in on a service where people are speaking out God’s truth, the plain words will bring them up against the truth and probe their hearts. Before you know it, they’re going to be on their faces before God, recognizing that God is among you. [26-33] So here’s what I want you to do. When you gather for worship, each one of you be prepared with something that will be useful for all: Sing a hymn, teach a lesson, tell a story, lead a prayer, provide an insight. If prayers are offered in tongues, two or three’s the limit, and then only if someone is present who can interpret what you’re saying. Otherwise, keep it between God and yourself. And no more than two o…[Read more] -
1 Corinthians 13:1-13 MSG
[1] If I speak with human eloquence and angelic ecstasy but don’t love, I’m nothing but the creaking of a rusty gate. [2] If I speak God’s Word with power, revealing all his mysteries and making everything plain as day, and if I have faith that says to a mountain, “Jump,” and it jumps, but I don’t love, I’m nothing. [3-7] If I give everything I own to the poor and even go to the stake to be burned as a martyr, but I don’t love, I’ve gotten nowhere. So, no matter what I say, what I believe, and what I do, I’m bankrupt without love. Love never gives up. Love cares more for others than for self. Love doesn’t want what it doesn’t have. Love doesn’t strut, Doesn’t have a swelled head, Doesn’t force itself on others, Isn’t always “me first,” Doesn’t fly off the handle, Doesn’t keep score of the sins of others, Doesn’t revel when others grovel, Takes pleasure in the flowering of truth, Puts up with anything, Trusts God always, Always looks for the best, Never looks back, But keeps going to the end. [8-10] Love never dies. Inspired speech will be over some day; praying in tongues will end; understanding will reach its limit. We know only a portion of the truth, and what we say about God is always incomplete. But when the Complete arrives, our incompletes will be canceled. [11] When I was an infant at my mother’s breast, I gurgled and cooed like any infant. When I grew up, I left those infant ways for good. [12] We don’t yet see things clearly. We’re squinting in a fog, peering through a mist. But it won’t be long before the weather clears and the sun shines bright! We’ll see it all then, see it all as clearly as God sees us, knowing him directly just as he knows us! [13] But for right now, until that completeness, we have three things to do to lead us toward that consummation: Trust steadily in God, hope unswervingly, love extravagantly. And the best of the three is love.-
Often times, Charismaniacs use verse 9 to justify their prophecies being wrong, while the Cessationists on the opposite end of the spectrum say that in verse 10, the “Complete” (they’ll quote from KJV as “that which is perfect”) refers to the biblical canon (to say that since we are not continuing to add to the canonical story of the scriptures, the spiritual gifts have ceased). The most likely interpretation is that this is all referring to us currently not having perfect knowledge and understanding (both intellectual and supernatural) until we are resurrected into our new bodies.
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1 Corinthians 12:1-31 MSG
[1-3] What I want to talk about now is the various ways God’s Spirit gets worked into our lives. This is complex and often misunderstood, but I want you to be informed and knowledgeable. Remember how you were when you didn’t know God, led from one phony god to another, never knowing what you were doing, just doing it because everybody else did it? It’s different in this life. God wants us to use our intelligence, to seek to understand as well as we can. For instance, by using your heads, you know perfectly well that the Spirit of God would never prompt anyone to say “Jesus be damned!” Nor would anyone be inclined to say “Jesus is Master!” without the insight of the Holy Spirit. [4-11] God’s various gifts are handed out everywhere; but they all originate in God’s Spirit. God’s various ministries are carried out everywhere; but they all originate in God’s Spirit. God’s various expressions of power are in action everywhere; but God himself is behind it all. Each person is given something to do that shows who God is: Everyone gets in on it, everyone benefits. All kinds of things are handed out by the Spirit, and to all kinds of people! The variety is wonderful: wise counsel clear understanding simple trust healing the sick miraculous acts proclamation distinguishing between spirits tongues interpretation of tongues. All these gifts have a common origin, but are handed out one by one by the one Spirit of God. He decides who gets what, and when. [12-13] You can easily enough see how this kind of thing works by looking no further than your own body. Your body has many parts—limbs, organs, cells—but no matter how many parts you can name, you’re still one body. It’s exactly the same with Christ. By means of his one Spirit, we all said good-bye to our partial and piecemeal lives. We each used to independently call our own shots, but then we entered into a large and integrated life in which he has the final say in everything. (This is what we proclaimed in word and action when we were baptized.) Each of us is now a part of his resurrection body, refreshed and sustained at one fountain—his Spirit—where we all come to drink. The old labels we once used to identify ourselves—labels like Jew or Greek, slave or free—are no longer useful. We need something larger, more comprehensive. [14-18] I want you to think about how all this makes you more significant, not less. A body isn’t just a single part blown up into something huge. It’s all the different-but-similar parts arranged and functioning together. If Foot said, “I’m not elegant like Hand, embellished with rings; I guess I don’t belong to this body,” would that make it so? If Ear said, “I’m not beautiful like Eye, transparent and expressive; I don’t deserve a place on the head,” would you want to remove it from the body? If the body was all eye, how could it hear? If all ear, how could it smell? As it is, we see that God has carefully placed each part of the body right where he wanted it. [19-24] But I also want you to think about how this keeps your significance from getting blown up into self-importance. For no matter how significant you are, it is only because of what you are a part of. An enormous eye or a gigantic hand wouldn’t be a body, but a monster. What we have is one body with many parts, each its proper size and in its proper place. No part is important on its own. Can you imagine Eye telling Hand, “Get lost; I don’t need you”? Or, Head telling Foot, “You’re fired; your job has been phased out”? As a matter of fact, in practice it works the other way—the “lower” the part, the more basic, and therefore necessary. You can live without an eye, for instance, but not without a stomach. When it’s a part of your own body you are concerned with, it makes no difference whether the part is visible or clothed, higher or lower. You give it dignity and honor just as it is, without comparisons. If anything, you have more concern for the lower parts than the higher. If you had to choose, wouldn’t you prefer good digestion to full-bodied hair? [25-26] The way God designed our bodies is a model for understanding our lives together as a church: every part dependent on every other part, the parts we mention and the parts we don’t, the parts we see and the parts we don’t. If one part hurts, every other part is involved in the hurt, and in the healing. If one part flourishes, every other part enters into the exuberance. [27-31] You are Christ’s body—that’s who you are! You must never forget this. Only as you accept your part of that body does your “part” mean anything. You’re familiar with some of the parts that God has formed in his church, which is his “body”: apostles prophets teachers miracle workers healers helpers organizers those who pray in tongues. But it’s obvious by now, isn’t it, that Christ’s church is a complete Body and not a gigantic, unidimensional Part? It’s not all Apostle, not all Prophet, not all Miracle Worker, not all H…[Read more] -
1 Corinthians 11:1-34 MSG
[1-2] It pleases me that you continue to remember and honor me by keeping up the traditions of the faith I taught you. All actual authority stems from Christ. [3-9] In a marriage relationship, there is authority from Christ to husband, and from husband to wife. The authority of Christ is the authority of God. Any man who speaks with God or about God in a way that shows a lack of respect for the authority of Christ, dishonors Christ. In the same way, a wife who speaks with God in a way that shows a lack of respect for the authority of her husband, dishonors her husband. Worse, she dishonors herself—an ugly sight, like a woman with her head shaved. This is basically the origin of these customs we have of women wearing head coverings in worship, while men take their hats off. By these symbolic acts, men and women, who far too often butt heads with each other, submit their “heads” to the Head: God. [10-12] Don’t, by the way, read too much into the differences here between men and women. Neither man nor woman can go it alone or claim priority. Man was created first, as a beautiful shining reflection of God—that is true. But the head on a woman’s body clearly outshines in beauty the head of her “head,” her husband. The first woman came from man, true—but ever since then, every man comes from a woman! And since virtually everything comes from God anyway, let’s quit going through these “who’s first” routines. [13-16] Don’t you agree there is something naturally powerful in the symbolism—a woman, her beautiful hair reminiscent of angels, praying in adoration; a man, his head bared in reverence, praying in submission? I hope you’re not going to be argumentative about this. All God’s churches see it this way; I don’t want you standing out as an exception. [17-19] Regarding this next item, I’m not at all pleased. I am getting the picture that when you meet together it brings out your worst side instead of your best! First, I get this report on your divisiveness, competing with and criticizing each other. I’m reluctant to believe it, but there it is. The best that can be said for it is that the testing process will bring truth into the open and confirm it. [20-22] And then I find that you bring your divisions to worship—you come together, and instead of eating the Lord’s Supper, you bring in a lot of food from the outside and make pigs of yourselves. Some are left out, and go home hungry. Others have to be carried out, too drunk to walk. I can’t believe it! Don’t you have your own homes to eat and drink in? Why would you stoop to desecrating God’s church? Why would you actually shame God’s poor? I never would have believed you would stoop to this. And I’m not going to stand by and say nothing. [23-26] Let me go over with you again exactly what goes on in the Lord’s Supper and why it is so centrally important. I received my instructions from the Master himself and passed them on to you. The Master, Jesus, on the night of his betrayal, took bread. Having given thanks, he broke it and said, This is my body, broken for you. Do this to remember me. After supper, he did the same thing with the cup: This cup is my blood, my new covenant with you. Each time you drink this cup, remember me. What you must solemnly realize is that every time you eat this bread and every time you drink this cup, you reenact in your words and actions the death of the Master. You will be drawn back to this meal again and again until the Master returns. You must never let familiarity breed contempt. [27-28] Anyone who eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Master irreverently is like part of the crowd that jeered and spit on him at his death. Is that the kind of “remembrance” you want to be part of? Examine your motives, test your heart, come to this meal in holy awe. [29-32] If you give no thought (or worse, don’t care) about the broken body of the Master when you eat and drink, you’re running the risk of serious consequences. That’s why so many of you even now are listless and sick, and others have gone to an early grave. If we get this straight now, we won’t have to be straightened out later on. Better to be confronted by the Master now than to face a fiery confrontation later. [33-34] So, my friends, when you come together to the Lord’s Table, be reverent and courteous with one another. If you’re so hungry that you can’t wait to be served, go home and get a sandwich. But by no means risk turning this Meal into an eating and drinking binge or a family squabble. It is a spiritual meal—a love feast. The other things you asked about, I’ll respond to in person when I make my next visit. -
1 Corinthians 10:1-33 MSG
[1-5] Remember our history, friends, and be warned. All our ancestors were led by the providential Cloud and taken miraculously through the Sea. They went through the waters, in a baptism like ours, as Moses led them from enslaving death to salvation life. They all ate and drank identical food and drink, meals provided daily by God. They drank from the Rock, God’s fountain for them that stayed with them wherever they were. And the Rock was Christ. But just experiencing God’s wonder and grace didn’t seem to mean much—most of them were defeated by temptation during the hard times in the desert, and God was not pleased. [6-10] The same thing could happen to us. We must be on guard so that we never get caught up in wanting our own way as they did. And we must not turn our religion into a circus as they did—“First the people partied, then they threw a dance.” We must not be sexually promiscuous—they paid for that, remember, with 23,000 deaths in one day! We must never try to get Christ to serve us instead of us serving him; they tried it, and God launched an epidemic of poisonous snakes. We must be careful not to stir up discontent; discontent destroyed them. [11-12] These are all warning markers—danger!—in our history books, written down so that we don’t repeat their mistakes. Our positions in the story are parallel—they at the beginning, we at the end—and we are just as capable of messing it up as they were. Don’t be so naive and self-confident. You’re not exempt. You could fall flat on your face as easily as anyone else. Forget about self-confidence; it’s useless. Cultivate God-confidence. [13] No test or temptation that comes your way is beyond the course of what others have had to face. All you need to remember is that God will never let you down; he’ll never let you be pushed past your limit; he’ll always be there to help you come through it. [14] So, my very dear friends, when you see people reducing God to something they can use or control, get out of their company as fast as you can. [15-18] I assume I’m addressing believers now who are mature. Draw your own conclusions: When we drink the cup of blessing, aren’t we taking into ourselves the blood, the very life, of Christ? And isn’t it the same with the loaf of bread we break and eat? Don’t we take into ourselves the body, the very life, of Christ? Because there is one loaf, our many-ness becomes one-ness—Christ doesn’t become fragmented in us. Rather, we become unified in him. We don’t reduce Christ to what we are; he raises us to what he is. That’s basically what happened even in old Israel—those who ate the sacrifices offered on God’s altar entered into God’s action at the altar. [19-22] Do you see the difference? Sacrifices offered to idols are offered to nothing, for what’s the idol but a nothing? Or worse than nothing, a minus, a demon! I don’t want you to become part of something that reduces you to less than yourself. And you can’t have it both ways, banqueting with the Master one day and slumming with demons the next. Besides, the Master won’t put up with it. He wants us—all or nothing. Do you think you can get off with anything less? [23-24] Looking at it one way, you could say, “Anything goes. Because of God’s immense generosity and grace, we don’t have to dissect and scrutinize every action to see if it will pass muster.” But the point is not to just get by. We want to live well, but our foremost efforts should be to help others live well. [25-28] With that as a base to work from, common sense can take you the rest of the way. Eat anything sold at the butcher shop, for instance; you don’t have to run an “idolatry test” on every item. “The earth,” after all, “is God’s, and everything in it.” That “everything” certainly includes the leg of lamb in the butcher shop. If a nonbeliever invites you to dinner and you feel like going, go ahead and enjoy yourself; eat everything placed before you. It would be both bad manners and bad spirituality to cross-examine your host on the ethical purity of each course as it is served. On the other hand, if he goes out of his way to tell you that this or that was sacrificed to god or goddess so-and-so, you should pass. Even though you may be indifferent as to where it came from, he isn’t, and you don’t want to send mixed messages to him about who you are worshiping. [29-30] But, except for these special cases, I’m not going to walk around on eggshells worrying about what small-minded people might say; I’m going to stride free and easy, knowing what our large-minded Master has already said. If I eat what is served to me, grateful to God for what is on the table, how can I worry about what someone will say? I thanked God for it and he blessed it! [31-33] So eat your meals heartily, not worrying about what others say about you—you’re eating to God’s glory, after all, not to please them. As a matter of fact, do everything that way, heartily and freely to God’s glory. At the same…[Read more] - Load More

















