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JumpsH00ps
2024-01-23 20:46:45 UTC My friend sent me this and I figured it would be a good discussion here!
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JumpsH00ps 2024-01-23 20:46:45 UTC
My friend sent me this and I figured it would be a good discussion here!
I watched the video, I’m iffy on what the guy said to really recommend him to anyone. He didn’t directly say it, but to me it seemed that he was implying that works would be needed to go to Heaven. He also included denial of self and repentance as apart of going to Heaven as well.
Now I’m still new to studying the Bible, but from my understanding you only need to truly believe Jesus is Lord to go to Heaven. Romans 10:9 “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” is all that’s required. Now of course just saying it isn’t enough, as you have to truly believe. Which I think comes into being born again, as things like repentance, works, and denial of self come after. But from my understanding the 3 are not a requirement, but just come after truly believing in Jesus.
As a whole, I don’t think he’s fully wrong, as you should always truly be trying to bettering yourself and get closer to God. Though none of us can reach that perfection he’s talking about, as to why we need Jesus. I think he just went too extreme with what his point was. Though I could very well be wrong I haven’t studied the Bible enough.
(I do agree with the Mike Winger recommendation though. I’d also thrown in IP since I think he’s very good at actually proving the authenticity of the Bible, while Mike leans more towards what it means).
Yes, exactly! I think that works are important, but are a product of salvation, not a necessity to be saved. I think that he is specifically speaking to the people who are only Christians by name and not by how they live, and they need to be educated on this, but he could have been clearer.
Ah that makes sense. Though I defiantly agree he should have been clear. As you mentioned above a newcomer would have been turned off by what he was saying. Same could even go for a lukewarm Christian who this was for. I think there’s better ways to put what he was saying.
He defiantly has a good way of teaching. But I think with better wording his message could have had a better impact/be more accessible
Right! And another thing I just thought of, not once does he use an actual verse or series of verses to back up what he’s saying. He just kind of, from the outside looking in, seems like he’s sitting around and (passionately) talking about Biblical ideas, in which case there is no reason for people to listen to him. If he could give credibility to himself, that would make him more palatable to people.