dont christians also tend to love to use the term “god-fearing”
actively fearing god and then forcing their kids and grandkids to also be god-fearing
or like, using the show “young sheldon” as an example, thje baptist christian mother woman made her 17 year old marry a 29 year old just bnecause the 17 year old got the 29 year old pregnant and they didnt wanna be wedlock
and then it caused her to get kicked out of her job at a church
literally forcing their kids to marry someone just so that they dont get struck down my jesus
Replying to:SillyWizard01dont christians also tend to love to use the term "god-fear
– God fearing more so means respect for God rather then being outright terrified of him. Granted assuming you believe he’s real you can be fearful of his power, but it’s really out of respect or rebalance rather then fear he’s going to randomly snap you out of existence
– Also I wouldn’t really use Young Sheldon as an example. I get it’s to show the point of what you mean but I’ve seen the arguments the shows given and most are pretty straw-manned or out of date for current atheist-christian debates
– Of course that example can happen, but that doesn’t mean that’s a good thing either. A good church wouldn’t force a marriage between someone underaged and an adult (or 2 underaged people) or kick out the minor for something like that. By Christian beliefs we all sin so we can’t judge someone, especially someone that young. Of course when it’s in the territory of a large crime like the 29 Year old that’s a different story.
(Edit realized I should of been more clear in case I wasn’t already. A church should never force a minor into a marriage, or arraigned marriages in general. That’s an issue with an individual church having bad interpretations or leaders having serious issues rather then the faith as a whole).
– And lastly no the kid wouldn’t get struck down by Jesus that’s just not biblical. Jesus isn’t going to zap you if you lie or burn you if you stole a candy bar
I know you have a lot of critiques and questions about Christianity, so I’d recommend looking into what Christian scholars say or the Bible. As a lot of these things you bring up are beliefs culture thinks Christianity is like rather then what it actually says. Granted, Christians modern day also need to do a good job of representing it correctly that’s defiantly an issue. But I also think you should go to the source to judge it more fairly.
because i dont like religion, religious things or anything like that
young sheldon is the ONLY pass because my grandparents used to watch it and i love big bang theory
religion just doesnt make sense to me, its boring and i dont really follow it
thats not to say i dont believe in a big guy up there
its probably not a guy though, moreso just like
zero or something, the universe
i just dont put my life into it or pray to it
i think doing that is stupid because why live your childhood life doing what your parents tell you, and then also what some guy in the sky tells you for the rest of your life
that doesnt maek sense
i want free will for my life after childhood
and the bible is moreso just a fictional ass story to me than something thats real
why in any sense would you believe that hundreds of years ago, this ONE guy got to be revived multiple times and was able to heal people by touching them
that doesnt make sense, its fictional
why would he not have been reincarnated yet ????
Replying to:SillyWizard01because i dont like religion, religious things or anything l
– Most of these points are personal opinion which is totally fine. We’re all free to chose to believe it or not, and that goes for all faiths, and I respect your belief to not. Though I will mention, I don’t think it’s great to be willfully ignorant on the faith since you hate it. I believe it’s best to at least see what the Bible says so that you can have further justification against it that’s accurate. As some points you’ve mentioned like I said above aren’t actually accurate to what the faith claims/is. Of course it’s fully your choice and I don’t want to put pressure on you too read/research it, but just my opinion.
– Finally, even though you won’t be reading it, with the end part, the Bible, namely the New Testament is generally considered true by scholars (not counting the miracles since that’s not their field. Some either don’t comment or chose the validity based on their personal belief).
Not going to get into all the details since we’ll be here forever and it’s still a long debate regarding the Bible as whole. But main point, the gospels were eye witness accounts, and almost the rest were letters from a guy name Paul. Old Testament is a mix of stories, eye witness accounts, laws of the time, and kinda like diaries but from kings. Of course you can still see stuff like the miracles or the stories as false, that’s for everyone to decide since we weren’t there. But a lot of it was genuinely historical and actually did happen. Though I of course believe it all did happen.
I’ll leave you with this video. You don’t have to watch it of course but I think it’s a good video. It provides studies for its claims, and gives a general history on what the faith has actually done for the world.
I hope this at least makes you more open minded about Christianity though fully understand if not. Again your full right to believe whatever you want this is all just my opinion. I’m happy you’re open to this dialogue and I genuinely appreciate it
Replying to:Humble Damien- Most of these points are personal opinion which is totally
i lived with christianity/catholic most of my life because of my grandparents and thats generally why i dont like it because they were so intermittent on the fact that it was true and jesus is real, which is not something i think would ever happen because really, a guy who can grant people the gift of sight, hearing, and mobility if they dont have that?? come on, how could fthat at all be real unless theyre a fucking doctor
on another note, of course christianity chanbged the world
with terms like “jesus christ!” and “dear god!” being used by ppeople who dont believe in them, its been revolutionary
generally though god is more ambiguous since there can be more than one god depending o nreligions or a non religious god
Replying to:SillyWizard01i lived with christianity/catholic most of my life because o
At least off the Jesus was real part, he was. It’s one of the most historically agreed upon facts ever. But the miracles is a whole other thing and goes back to the point of it’s for you to decide is it false or true.
If you felt forced into the faith I’m really sorry that was the case. We shouldn’t be forcing people to be Christian that’s anti biblical. I think it’s fine to raise your kids Christian but they should never feel forced into that path and sorry again if that’s what happened.
With the bottom part, I agree, maybe there can be multiple gods, just one, or even none. I think personally Christianity got it right based off the evidence and my research but I’m open to following the data. If it’s disapproved I hope I can uncover the correct god(s) or know if there is none. But at least right now my research has lead me here and I’ve never personally felt happier/more free in life
Again don’t want to push you to watch the video but I do recommend it. I think you’d be surprised what the faith has actually done for the world.
Replying to:Humble DamienAt least off the Jesus was real part, he was. It’s one of th
the correct god is me
no but i do think that the one true god is most likely just nature
not nature as in plants, but nature as in the nature of life and the universe and such
mother nature, if you will
Replying to:SillyWizard01the correct god is me
no but i do think that the one true g
I get where you’re coming from. I have a friend or two with similar mindset on it. I personally wouldn’t define a god as something the universe or Mother Nature would qualify as, however I get why that’d be your belief and I fully respect it.
My main point with this dialogue though, is I hope you can be open minded to religion, more specifically Christianity. I think with open mindedness in general we all as a society/species would be more happy and tolerant of each other, and in that way lead to a whole lot of good.
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this is why I’m gunning down Jesus first thing when I see him
His bitch ass dick rides his own father , that’s cringe and disgusting
what do you mean
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dont christians also tend to love to use the term “god-fearing”
actively fearing god and then forcing their kids and grandkids to also be god-fearing
or like, using the show “young sheldon” as an example, thje baptist christian mother woman made her 17 year old marry a 29 year old just bnecause the 17 year old got the 29 year old pregnant and they didnt wanna be wedlock
and then it caused her to get kicked out of her job at a church
literally forcing their kids to marry someone just so that they dont get struck down my jesus
– God fearing more so means respect for God rather then being outright terrified of him. Granted assuming you believe he’s real you can be fearful of his power, but it’s really out of respect or rebalance rather then fear he’s going to randomly snap you out of existence
– Also I wouldn’t really use Young Sheldon as an example. I get it’s to show the point of what you mean but I’ve seen the arguments the shows given and most are pretty straw-manned or out of date for current atheist-christian debates
– Of course that example can happen, but that doesn’t mean that’s a good thing either. A good church wouldn’t force a marriage between someone underaged and an adult (or 2 underaged people) or kick out the minor for something like that. By Christian beliefs we all sin so we can’t judge someone, especially someone that young. Of course when it’s in the territory of a large crime like the 29 Year old that’s a different story.
(Edit realized I should of been more clear in case I wasn’t already. A church should never force a minor into a marriage, or arraigned marriages in general. That’s an issue with an individual church having bad interpretations or leaders having serious issues rather then the faith as a whole).
– And lastly no the kid wouldn’t get struck down by Jesus that’s just not biblical. Jesus isn’t going to zap you if you lie or burn you if you stole a candy bar
I know you have a lot of critiques and questions about Christianity, so I’d recommend looking into what Christian scholars say or the Bible. As a lot of these things you bring up are beliefs culture thinks Christianity is like rather then what it actually says. Granted, Christians modern day also need to do a good job of representing it correctly that’s defiantly an issue. But I also think you should go to the source to judge it more fairly.
I couldn’t have put it better myself.
its part of my moral code to nev er read the bible
Why’s that?
because i dont like religion, religious things or anything like that
young sheldon is the ONLY pass because my grandparents used to watch it and i love big bang theory
religion just doesnt make sense to me, its boring and i dont really follow it
thats not to say i dont believe in a big guy up there
its probably not a guy though, moreso just like
zero or something, the universe
i just dont put my life into it or pray to it
i think doing that is stupid because why live your childhood life doing what your parents tell you, and then also what some guy in the sky tells you for the rest of your life
that doesnt maek sense
i want free will for my life after childhood
and the bible is moreso just a fictional ass story to me than something thats real
why in any sense would you believe that hundreds of years ago, this ONE guy got to be revived multiple times and was able to heal people by touching them
that doesnt make sense, its fictional
why would he not have been reincarnated yet ????
– Most of these points are personal opinion which is totally fine. We’re all free to chose to believe it or not, and that goes for all faiths, and I respect your belief to not. Though I will mention, I don’t think it’s great to be willfully ignorant on the faith since you hate it. I believe it’s best to at least see what the Bible says so that you can have further justification against it that’s accurate. As some points you’ve mentioned like I said above aren’t actually accurate to what the faith claims/is. Of course it’s fully your choice and I don’t want to put pressure on you too read/research it, but just my opinion.
– Finally, even though you won’t be reading it, with the end part, the Bible, namely the New Testament is generally considered true by scholars (not counting the miracles since that’s not their field. Some either don’t comment or chose the validity based on their personal belief).
Not going to get into all the details since we’ll be here forever and it’s still a long debate regarding the Bible as whole. But main point, the gospels were eye witness accounts, and almost the rest were letters from a guy name Paul. Old Testament is a mix of stories, eye witness accounts, laws of the time, and kinda like diaries but from kings. Of course you can still see stuff like the miracles or the stories as false, that’s for everyone to decide since we weren’t there. But a lot of it was genuinely historical and actually did happen. Though I of course believe it all did happen.
I’ll leave you with this video. You don’t have to watch it of course but I think it’s a good video. It provides studies for its claims, and gives a general history on what the faith has actually done for the world.
I hope this at least makes you more open minded about Christianity though fully understand if not. Again your full right to believe whatever you want this is all just my opinion. I’m happy you’re open to this dialogue and I genuinely appreciate it
i lived with christianity/catholic most of my life because of my grandparents and thats generally why i dont like it because they were so intermittent on the fact that it was true and jesus is real, which is not something i think would ever happen because really, a guy who can grant people the gift of sight, hearing, and mobility if they dont have that?? come on, how could fthat at all be real unless theyre a fucking doctor
on another note, of course christianity chanbged the world
with terms like “jesus christ!” and “dear god!” being used by ppeople who dont believe in them, its been revolutionary
generally though god is more ambiguous since there can be more than one god depending o nreligions or a non religious god
At least off the Jesus was real part, he was. It’s one of the most historically agreed upon facts ever. But the miracles is a whole other thing and goes back to the point of it’s for you to decide is it false or true.
If you felt forced into the faith I’m really sorry that was the case. We shouldn’t be forcing people to be Christian that’s anti biblical. I think it’s fine to raise your kids Christian but they should never feel forced into that path and sorry again if that’s what happened.
With the bottom part, I agree, maybe there can be multiple gods, just one, or even none. I think personally Christianity got it right based off the evidence and my research but I’m open to following the data. If it’s disapproved I hope I can uncover the correct god(s) or know if there is none. But at least right now my research has lead me here and I’ve never personally felt happier/more free in life
Again don’t want to push you to watch the video but I do recommend it. I think you’d be surprised what the faith has actually done for the world.
the correct god is me
no but i do think that the one true god is most likely just nature
not nature as in plants, but nature as in the nature of life and the universe and such
mother nature, if you will
I get where you’re coming from. I have a friend or two with similar mindset on it. I personally wouldn’t define a god as something the universe or Mother Nature would qualify as, however I get why that’d be your belief and I fully respect it.
My main point with this dialogue though, is I hope you can be open minded to religion, more specifically Christianity. I think with open mindedness in general we all as a society/species would be more happy and tolerant of each other, and in that way lead to a whole lot of good.
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