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Vamrack
2018-10-04 19:56:02 UTC (Everyone read this)this is to @epitaph200 You think you can change my style but you got the wrong dude its time for you to realize
changing people’s creative thought is wrong and trust me you have forced the majority of the sn community to channel their styles to realistic and you even influenced other people to restricted scarf figs from groups and also actually hate the people behind the creation of base or scarf figs.like how dare you! You even can’t keep the promise you made about stopping the drama and arguing.what more f*cked up is you still insisted on changing scarf figs while talking about “peace on stick nodes”. You shed hate like a god damn virus and me and pretty much anyone is sick of it.who care’s about the damn design we are all teen’s we just wanna see amazing sh*t in stick nodes. You on the other hand care about detail and you want everyone to be like you.only reason there are some people that support you is because of your backgrounds and weapons and one series.
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problem lies with the fact that a lot of people he criticises want to be professional animators when they grow up, or want to get really good at animation.
yeah he should leave the hobbyists tf alone but m9 base figs are not the way to go for any of the above criteria.
It’s stick node’s (stick node’s) this was inspired by pivot of which consisted with base figs .stick node’s sure help me with movement but for really serious form’s of animation like 2d and 3d you need to be good at art and how things move.and that’s what you can learn using stick node’s but the sad fact is I won’t use stick nodes forever soon I’ll end up uploading flipaclip animations and 3d animations. Sorry that might have been off topic anyways a base fig won’t harm you creative thinking because soon you will adapt but you have to take things slow to become better at animating.
I agree on your opinion that he sheds hate, he does. he did it with me!
he said to me on xbox that his way of “helping” or “teaching” others on SN to be better was harsh but was a so called “better” way of doing said teaching…
its not, It is full of hate and only causes more divide in the community so yes I agree with you vamrack.
when was your last Xbox chat with him?
if bootleg’s above comment is true, he’s definitely changed in that time.
Oh god
*for the better
oh really?
he may have “changed” as in making nice pfps for everyone (except me) ((no surprise there)) and maybe saying that he’ll be nicer but i havent seen it and plus, he hasnt really “changed” if he still hates me and my beliefs…if thats still true then he hasnt changed almost at all.
Ain’t that the damn truth.
PREACH IT
what happend then
epitaph told me spierr that he said he was gay and you rejected him
*facepalm*
thats what he would say to you!
heres what ACTUALLY HAPPENED (I WOULD KNOW AS IM THE MASTER OF MY OWN ACTIONS)
so I won a contest that he hosted regarding the node spawn destroyer (still have that fig) and he promptly allowed me into the movie, which was my dream at the time.
then I see a comment he left joking about how he was a bisexual, a atheist and a furry…
after seeing that I asked him (VERY KINDLY) if all that was true.
he answered yes. I then responded saying (ONCE AGAIN, VERY NICELY) that I didnt want to be in the movie anymore as I didnt want to be involved in what he believed in.
I never was harsh to him, I never disregarded him, he may SAY that I did that but that is CERTAINLY…NOT the case.
as he fails to realize is theres a difference between disagreeing and not accepting.
I accept him! I totally do in fact, im the one pushing for us to find common ground since I cant seem to change his mind about MY beliefs but hes the one spreading false claims saying im the evil one and I didnt accept him!
no. I simply disagreed, theres a BIG difference.
Wow. i see endless hours of frustration in that one comment. i belive you man dont worry but i prefer to see all sides of the story
which I can respect, I hate it when people hear one side and believe it
*COUGH COUGH* CROCODII *COUGH COUGH*
also, if I was the evil one then I would be the one attacking HIM but instead what has happened?
ive been ignored and disregarded by him and his fans for half a year almost…..thats NOT a nice thing to do.
so yes id love to see him still sit there and say at my face IM the bad guy
do you know why he hates you?
i know, but do you?
I have guesses and hes told me kinda why in the past but if hes changed his reason please tell me!
because you were homophobic
you rejected him for being bisexual and admitted you were a homophobe, because of your religion.
he still holds that grudge and I doubt it’ll go away for him.
i understand that you might have changed but that’s not something that can be forgiven, at least for him.
Can’t be forgiven
Bruh he ain’t kill no one if he changed the way he thinks about certain sexuality then the right thing to do ….IS FORGIVE HIM DAMN!!!!
speaking for epitaph here
“homophobic”?
last time I checked,
1. “phobic” means your afraid of something, im not afraid of the LGBT community!
2. do you know why I said “yes I am homophobic”?
because the situation was a little silly.
we’re allowed to have opinions on here and we’re allowed to disagree UNLESS your name is composed of six letters and begins with S, and your life is dedicated to God. then your opinions and disagreements are invalid!
you can tell epitaph, im not who needs to change…I did NOTHING wrong and I will continue to state that until it gets through his skull.
the thing I did was try and avoid something I disagreed with!
thats how this whole thing started!
a opinion, that went against epitaph’s agenda/preferences.
and if he cant forgive me for saying my personal opinion about his agendas then thats a little sad.
also a common idea that people get wrong about me is this notion that I “rejected” him!
I DID NOT REJECT HIM, HE REJECTED ME WHEN I DISAGREED!!!!
understand? when I calmly and kindly stated I didnt want to be involved HE tried to plead with me for some reason and when I kept saying “no I dont wish to be involved, sorry” thats when it escalated and I decided to leave. what happened after I left? he started spreading rumors that I attacked him and tenebris!
and I want to be his friend now, im not asking for forgiveness though when I did nothing to harm him.
he needs to realize my intentions this whole time have been pure and just because I dont agree doesnt mean he gets to pull the eppy’ card and gather his fanbase to attack me, thats not fair nor is it kind when i’ve tried to help.
anyway, i’ve said my peace a million times over at this point… if @epitaph200 wants to be friends he needs to TRULY change and treat me kindly.
also epitaph, if you are reading this, can you stop treating me like a villain from a Disney film? I did nothing wrong, at all.
“Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).”
also, and yes, the following will be slightly paraphrased as I haven’t read what happened in a while, but you said something along the lines of “I’m afraid I cannot be friends with you due to my religion”, I know for a fact you didn’t say exactly that, but it conveyed a very similar message.
1) k
2) yeah thats what I said but when I say “friends” now I mean just to make some common ground for crying out loud that would be a start.
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Lol why the f**k would i want to be your friend Spierr
Here we go again.
you did in the past and I would think twice about turning down if your just trying to ruin my mood by doing so because im just sick of the constant war.
lets both of us move on and find some common ground, eh?
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Nah, none exists
okay then, sad to hear but I wont stop praying for you :3
What’s worse is he never apologize to the people he hurts
exactly
Used to take him word for word, but seeing both sides of the story, I’m dissapointed with how he acted and attacked you. Biggest question is why he refuses to move on while you have moved on.
he has too much pride to do that.
You see. When I destroy a channel, I feel some pride only over the reason that they won’t be bothering anyone. Anymore. But he does so when people aren’t bothering anyone. I myself do not agree with people being gay. But I accept him. It’s like eating KD with a spoon or fork. It doesn’t effect me, it’s simply a life style. I don’t care about it. I don’t hate anyone for eating KD with a spoon when I eat it with a fork. Just disagreeing with him ends up in disaster. He himself has gotten a little carried away with this stuff. And it pisses me off when he has to slip in those “god doesn’t exist jokes”. It’s simple. Keep it to yourself, cause I do it already with my idea that he does exist. But he has a point on getting rid of drama. He’s trying to move on from that, but I’ve never seen him apologize for any of the crap that he has thrown at people.
Now if only I knew what KD was
Kraft Dinner. It’s pretty much just macaroni and cheese.
atleast im not the only one that noticed the fact he never apologize for the way he acts. hell i one time got pissed off at some guy i forgot his stick fire or something and i said some f*cked things and after the ordeal i felt bad apologized to him but how i acted and then he also apologized too because he kinda came off wrong too and then me and was talking about how bbad the sn community has been, wait that was the same day epitaph made the huge speeech.
“me and him” im using the xbox controller to type this some.there might be spelling problems
Huh. Wow. Well good for you standing up for yourself. Also good for you calling out someone that has a lot more attention than you.
Woah yah was what!?!?
Sticknodes is for animating not design
Character design is part of the grander scheme of animation, but I do agree dat Epitaph should cool it most of the time
And me
And spierr
And other people im forgetting
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Lol
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I agree that people need to move on from scarf figures. But I disagree with Epitaph on where entire art styles need to change. Some are styles are made simple for reasons, other times for design purposes. Project landfall has insane amounts of detail and I’m sure it would still be praised and loved if it didn’t have that amount of detail. The detail is only an addition. But if you. Vamrack were to switch your entire art style, you would kill your own channel. People go to certain channels of ours for certain reasons. People go to your channel for the comedy, characters and brutal combat. People go to me for old school style, gun smothered animation and insane detail. People go to Epitaph for his completed stick nodes movie series, perfected cartoon style and just straight animation that is watchable. People go to son goku for flashy effects and a rather large amount of action that is debatably a good thing. We all have those perfecting traits and sometimes they come down to detail. The amount of detail in something sets an art style, not the skill. But I do agree with Epitaph on the part that everyone needs atleast some detail. But not exactly something on his level or mine.
Vamrack and eb as the meme gose
Go write a book
Kk. *Writes a book named mein kampf*
Lol