If you’re a Christian or just want to learn about Christianity, c’mon and join us. Just to let you know what I usually do, I post a Bible chapter every day at any time between 5 and 11 A.M. U.S. central time, but we don’t have to stop there. We can make animations together, share Christian songs, parodies, comedy, sermons, and whatever else you want.
Now, just because I’m a little more light-hearted than some Christians doesn’t mean that this is all going to be fun and games. As a Christian, I have a responsibility to call out the things that God disapproves of. Some of the conversations we have might get a little hairy, and that’s okay, as long as we abide by the site’s community guidelines. 😊 You may ask, “If your goal is to draw people into God’s kingdom, why are you calling out things that He disapproves of? Wouldn’t that, for one, push people away from God and, for another, get you into fights that you don’t want to be in?” I will answer the first question with these verses:
James 5:20
“Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him”
Titus 2:15
“Let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins”
1 Timothy 5:20
“As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear”
2 Timothy 4:2
“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction”
Psalm 141:5
“Let a righteous man strike me — it is a kindness; let him rebuke me — it is oil for my head; let my head not refuse it”
Proverbs 9:8
“Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you”.
And for the second question, Christianity is a sacrifice. I will take on challenges as a Christian that I wouldn’t as a lukewarm Christian, an atheist, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Jew, etc. And when I encounter those challenges, I have to put my faith in Yahweh above my feelings and desires. I’m not supposed to store up treasures here on Earth, but in the heavenly kingdom. In order to do that, I have to be inconvenienced and mocked, and I’m fine with that. I’ve chosen to give up everything I want for my God.
If I post anything on here that has anything to do with my opinion or interpretation of a situation, 9 times out of 10, it’s because that is my interpretation of the Bible. I believe that that everything in the Bible is objectively true, there’s just debates on how to INTERPRET said truth. I try my hardest not to let my worldview effect my biblical view, though, it may seep through.
If you’re curious about the name, I had to think of something, so I came up with “Pest” Control (as atheists seem to think that the way we communicate our religion to them is annoying, so they could see us as pests, and we are all in one group so that we can contain the Christian stuff mostly inside the group for “control”).
Before I edited the description of this group, it said: “We can brainstorm to find out more ways to win atheists over to Christ.” Since I typed that, my beliefs have changed slightly. I believe that, yes it is great to have atheists have a change of heart, that’s one of our biggest goals is to have more people up in heaven, but we shouldn’t be intentionally TRYING to change their religion (both because it pushes people away from the religion, and it’s just not what any human needs to do to another human). We need to be ourselves around them, have them see how we are as a person, how Christianity (even if they can’t identify it as that) affects us, and if they want to, change. And we should never, ever, push them to change; the Bible even tells us this. I have made this mistake for years, and to all of the atheists and people with other religious beliefs that I have hurt by doing this, I’m so unbelievably sorry.
Thank you for your time. Have a blessed and wonderful day!
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Luke 19:1-48 MSG
[1-4] Then Jesus entered and walked through Jericho. There was a man there, his name Zacchaeus, the head tax man and quite rich. He wanted desperately to see Jesus, but the crowd was in his way—he was a short man and couldn’t see over the crowd. So he ran on ahead and climbed up in a sycamore tree so he could see Jesus when he came by. [5-7] When Jesus got to the tree, he looked up and said, “Zacchaeus, hurry down. Today is my day to be a guest in your home.” Zacchaeus scrambled out of the tree, hardly believing his good luck, delighted to take Jesus home with him. Everyone who saw the incident was indignant and grumped, “What business does he have getting cozy with this crook?” [8] Zacchaeus just stood there, a little stunned. He stammered apologetically, “Master, I give away half my income to the poor—and if I’m caught cheating, I pay four times the damages.” [9-10] Jesus said, “Today is salvation day in this home! Here he is: Zacchaeus, son of Abraham! For the Son of Man came to find and restore the lost.” [11] While he had their attention, and because they were getting close to Jerusalem by this time and expectation was building that God’s kingdom would appear any minute, he told this story: [12-13] “There was once a man descended from a royal house who needed to make a long trip back to headquarters to get authorization for his rule and then return. But first he called ten servants together, gave them each a sum of money, and instructed them, ‘Operate with this until I return.’ [14] “But the citizens there hated him. So they sent a commission with a signed petition to oppose his rule: ‘We don’t want this man to rule us.’ [15] “When he came back bringing the authorization of his rule, he called those ten servants to whom he had given the money to find out how they had done. [16] “The first said, ‘Master, I doubled your money.’ [17] “He said, ‘Good servant! Great work! Because you’ve been trustworthy in this small job, I’m making you governor of ten towns.’ [18] “The second said, ‘Master, I made a fifty percent profit on your money.’ [19] “He said, ‘I’m putting you in charge of five towns.’ [20-21] “The next servant said, ‘Master, here’s your money safe and sound. I kept it hidden in the cellar. To tell you the truth, I was a little afraid. I know you have high standards and hate sloppiness, and don’t suffer fools gladly.’ [22-23] “He said, ‘You’re right that I don’t suffer fools gladly—and you’ve acted the fool! Why didn’t you at least invest the money in securities so I would have gotten a little interest on it?’ [24] “Then he said to those standing there, ‘Take the money from him and give it to the servant who doubled my stake.’ [25] “They said, ‘But Master, he already has double . . .’ [26] “He said, ‘That’s what I mean: Risk your life and get more than you ever dreamed of. Play it safe and end up holding the bag. [27] “‘As for these enemies of mine who petitioned against my rule, clear them out of here. I don’t want to see their faces around here again.’” [28-31] After saying these things, Jesus headed straight up to Jerusalem. When he got near Bethphage and Bethany at the mountain called Olives, he sent off two of the disciples with instructions: “Go to the village across from you. As soon as you enter, you’ll find a colt tethered, one that has never been ridden. Untie it and bring it. If anyone says anything, asks, ‘What are you doing?’ say, ‘His Master needs him.’” [32-33] The two left and found it just as he said. As they were untying the colt, its owners said, “What are you doing untying the colt?” [34] They said, “His Master needs him.” [35-36] They brought the colt to Jesus. Then, throwing their coats on its back, they helped Jesus get on. As he rode, the people gave him a grand welcome, throwing their coats on the street. [37-38] Right at the crest, where Mount Olives begins its descent, the whole crowd of disciples burst into enthusiastic praise over all the mighty works they had witnessed: Blessed is he who comes, the king in God’s name! All’s well in heaven! Glory in the high places! [39] Some Pharisees from the crowd told him, “Teacher, get your disciples under control!” [40] But he said, “If they kept quiet, the stones would do it for them, shouting praise.” [41-44] When the city came into view, he wept over it. “If you had only recognized this day, and everything that was good for you! But now it’s too late. In the days ahead your enemies are going to bring up their heavy artillery and surround you, pressing in from every side. They’ll smash you and your babies on the pavement. Not one stone will be left intact. All this because you didn’t recognize and welcome God’s personal visit.” [45-46] Going into the Temple he began to throw out everyone who had set up shop, selling everything and anything. He said, “It’s written in Scripture, My house is a house of prayer; You have turned it into a religious bazaar.” [47-48] From then on he taught each day in…[Read more] -
Luke 18:1-43 MSG
[1-3] Jesus told them a story showing that it was necessary for them to pray consistently and never quit. He said, “There was once a judge in some city who never gave God a thought and cared nothing for people. A widow in that city kept after him: ‘My rights are being violated. Protect me!’ [4-5] “He never gave her the time of day. But after this went on and on he said to himself, ‘I care nothing what God thinks, even less what people think. But because this widow won’t quit badgering me, I’d better do something and see that she gets justice—otherwise I’m going to end up beaten black-and-blue by her pounding.’” [6-8] Then the Master said, “Do you hear what that judge, corrupt as he is, is saying? So what makes you think God won’t step in and work justice for his chosen people, who continue to cry out for help? Won’t he stick up for them? I assure you, he will. He will not drag his feet. But how much of that kind of persistent faith will the Son of Man find on the earth when he returns?” [9-12] He told his next story to some who were complacently pleased with themselves over their moral performance and looked down their noses at the common people: “Two men went up to the Temple to pray, one a Pharisee, the other a tax man. The Pharisee posed and prayed like this: ‘Oh, God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, crooks, adulterers, or, heaven forbid, like this tax man. I fast twice a week and tithe on all my income.’ [13] “Meanwhile the tax man, slumped in the shadows, his face in his hands, not daring to look up, said, ‘God, give mercy. Forgive me, a sinner.’” [14] Jesus commented, “This tax man, not the other, went home made right with God. If you walk around with your nose in the air, you’re going to end up flat on your face, but if you’re content to be simply yourself, you will become more than yourself.” * * * [15-17] People brought babies to Jesus, hoping he might touch them. When the disciples saw it, they shooed them off. Jesus called them back. “Let these children alone. Don’t get between them and me. These children are the kingdom’s pride and joy. Mark this: Unless you accept God’s kingdom in the simplicity of a child, you’ll never get in.” [18] One day one of the local officials asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to deserve eternal life?” [19-20] Jesus said, “Why are you calling me good? No one is good—only God. You know the commandments, don’t you? No illicit sex, no killing, no stealing, no lying, honor your father and mother.” [21] He said, “I’ve kept them all for as long as I can remember.” [22] When Jesus heard that, he said, “Then there’s only one thing left to do: Sell everything you own and give it away to the poor. You will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me.” [23] This was the last thing the official expected to hear. He was very rich and became terribly sad. He was holding on tight to a lot of things and not about to let them go. [24-25] Seeing his reaction, Jesus said, “Do you have any idea how difficult it is for people who have it all to enter God’s kingdom? I’d say it’s easier to thread a camel through a needle’s eye than get a rich person into God’s kingdom.” [26] “Then who has any chance at all?” the others asked. [27] “No chance at all,” Jesus said, “if you think you can pull it off by yourself. Every chance in the world if you trust God to do it.” [28] Peter tried to regain some initiative: “We left everything we owned and followed you, didn’t we?” [29-30] “Yes,” said Jesus, “and you won’t regret it. No one who has sacrificed home, spouse, brothers and sisters, parents, children—whatever—will lose out. It will all come back multiplied many times over in your lifetime. And then the bonus of eternal life!” [31-34] Then Jesus took the Twelve off to the side and said, “Listen carefully. We’re on our way up to Jerusalem. Everything written in the Prophets about the Son of Man will take place. He will be handed over to the Romans, jeered at, ridiculed, and spit on. Then, after giving him the third degree, they will kill him. In three days he will rise, alive.” But they didn’t get it, could make neither heads nor tails of what he was talking about. [35-37] He came to the outskirts of Jericho. A blind man was sitting beside the road asking for handouts. When he heard the rustle of the crowd, he asked what was going on. They told him, “Jesus the Nazarene is going by.” [38] He yelled, “Jesus! Son of David! Mercy, have mercy on me!” [39] Those ahead of Jesus told the man to shut up, but he only yelled all the louder, “Son of David! Mercy, have mercy on me!” [40] Jesus stopped and ordered him to be brought over. When he had come near, Jesus asked, “What do you want from me?” [41] He said, “Master, I want to see again.” [42-43] Jesus said, “Go ahead—see again! Your faith has saved and healed you!” The healing was instant: He looked up, seeing—and then followed Jesus, glorifying God. Everyone in the street joined in, shouting praise t…[Read more] -
Luke 17:1-35, 37 MSG
[1-2] He said to his disciples, “Hard trials and temptations are bound to come, but too bad for whoever brings them on! Better to wear a concrete vest and take a swim with the fishes than give even one of these dear little ones a hard time! [3-4] “Be alert. If you see your friend going wrong, correct him. If he responds, forgive him. Even if it’s personal against you and repeated seven times through the day, and seven times he says, ‘I’m sorry, I won’t do it again,’ forgive him.” [5] The apostles came up and said to the Master, “Give us more faith.” [6] But the Master said, “You don’t need more faith. There is no ‘more’ or ‘less’ in faith. If you have a bare kernel of faith, say the size of a poppy seed, you could say to this sycamore tree, ‘Go jump in the lake,’ and it would do it. [7-10] “Suppose one of you has a servant who comes in from plowing the field or tending the sheep. Would you take his coat, set the table, and say, ‘Sit down and eat’? Wouldn’t you be more likely to say, ‘Prepare dinner; change your clothes and wait table for me until I’ve finished my coffee; then go to the kitchen and have your supper’? Does the servant get special thanks for doing what’s expected of him? It’s the same with you. When you’ve done everything expected of you, be matter-of-fact and say, ‘The work is done. What we were told to do, we did.’” [11-13] It happened that as he made his way toward Jerusalem, he crossed over the border between Samaria and Galilee. As he entered a village, ten men, all lepers, met him. They kept their distance but raised their voices, calling out, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!” [14-16] Taking a good look at them, he said, “Go, show yourselves to the priests.” They went, and while still on their way, became clean. One of them, when he realized that he was healed, turned around and came back, shouting his gratitude, glorifying God. He kneeled at Jesus’ feet, so grateful. He couldn’t thank him enough—and he was a Samaritan. [17-19] Jesus said, “Were not ten healed? Where are the nine? Can none be found to come back and give glory to God except this outsider?” Then he said to him, “Get up. On your way. Your faith has healed and saved you.” [20-21] Jesus, grilled by the Pharisees on when the kingdom of God would come, answered, “The kingdom of God doesn’t come by counting the days on the calendar. Nor when someone says, ‘Look here!’ or, ‘There it is!’ And why? Because God’s kingdom is already among you.” [22-24a] He went on to say to his disciples, “The days are coming when you are going to be desperately homesick for just a glimpse of one of the days of the Son of Man, and you won’t see a thing. And they’ll say to you, ‘Look over there!’ or, ‘Look here!’ Don’t fall for any of that nonsense. The arrival of the Son of Man is not something you go out to see. He simply comes. [24b-25] “You know how the whole sky lights up from a single flash of lightning? That’s how it will be on the Day of the Son of Man. But first it’s necessary that he suffer many things and be turned down by the people of today. [26-27] “The time of the Son of Man will be just like the time of Noah—everyone carrying on as usual, having a good time right up to the day Noah boarded the ship. They suspected nothing until the flood hit and swept everything away. [28-30] “It was the same in the time of Lot—the people carrying on, having a good time, business as usual right up to the day Lot walked out of Sodom and a firestorm swept down and burned everything to a crisp. That’s how it will be—sudden, total—when the Son of Man is revealed. [31-33] “When the Day arrives and you’re out working in the yard, don’t run into the house to get anything. And if you’re out in the field, don’t go back and get your coat. Remember what happened to Lot’s wife! If you grasp and cling to life on your terms, you’ll lose it, but if you let that life go, you’ll get life on God’s terms. [34-35] “On that Day, two men will be in the same boat fishing—one taken, the other left. Two women will be working in the same kitchen—one taken, the other left.”
[37] Trying to take all this in, the disciples said, “Master, where?” He told them, “Watch for the circling of the vultures. They’ll spot the corpse first. The action will begin around my dead body.” -
This is a great discussion! I tend to agree with their views on Hollywood.
It\’s unfortunate that this topic makes people want to murder each other. I agree with Nate\’s points here (though, I disagree with the tone he takes with them. But just because I disagree, that doesn\’t mean that he\’s wrong; we\’re all different members of the body of Christ with different rolls. Maybe his roll is to be more abrasive to bring the point home just how bad these sins are, maybe Mike Winger\’s roll is to be more kind to draw people to the truth through a certain type of kindness that people outside of the Christian faith don\’t portray often).
These prosperity preachers like Jesse Duplantis and Kenneth Copeland are EXACTLY why Christians become Cessationists and it\’s so sad!
I agree with most everything Dr. Steve says.
I can\’t not believe that God performs miracles today.
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your a very valid user to my eyes, your christian and i respect it very much, glad i’m not the only one, god bless you
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Thanks, man! I try my best .
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ok im just curious what are your thoughts on lgbtq
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Do you want to start another controversy or something?
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no its just im curious about what he thinks given what he said in this post
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Actually, I have always wondered about that
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I mean she’s just asking what are his thoughts considering jumphoops hasn’t really said much about it
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hes said some questionable things before, and considering hes a christian.. well, you know
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What did he say?
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nothing really obvious but i think hes posted some videos about christians talking about lgbtq and said some things about what he thinks
it wasnt anything bad but it wasnt anything good either, it wasnt really talking about lgbtq specifically, moreso the video he linked
i misspoke, sorry
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I promise I haven’t been ignoring you. I’m on my lunch break now, and this is about the only free time I have to sit down and formulate a longer text than a few words.
I believe that both the Old Testament and New Testament teach that homosexuality is wrong. The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of it, Jesus gives a citation of Genesis 1:27 to the Pharisees explaining the way marriage is meant to be (which includes that it’s supposed to be between a man and a woman), Paul directly rebukes it in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, and throughout the entire next chapter, Paul also talks about the gift of celibacy for certain people, including homosexuals.
The LGBT community likely began with genuine confusion/concerns (What do we do if someone is born with both genitalia? etc.) and has now snowballed into what it is today. Just like every other “movement”, or whatever you want to call it, it’s become very toxic and intolerant (again, just like religious (including Christian) movements, equality movements, and any other movements).
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oh no
you’re an idiot
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When have I ever not claimed to be an idiot, lol
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I want to clarify that while homosexuality is a sin, so is doing drugs and sleeping around. I, personally, believe that you can be a born again Christian, struggle with any or all of these sins, have times where you give in to the temptation of these sins, and still be saved. You are only not saved if you are in continuous sin and not overcome with grief that you performed said sin.
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While I get where you’re coming from, we’ve evolved to a point where not everyone agrees with some stuff the Bible says. This has been a long way that separates our society standards with the ones written by the lord.
Whilst we still agree to some of them eg; you won’t kill, you won’t steal… it is important to factorise that people are free to do whatever they want regarding their sexuality and it doesn’t have to mean its wrong.
Jesus loves all of us regardless of our gender, best we can do is adapt his ways and love everyone the same way he loves us. Regardless of gender.-
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You’re exactly right, Jesus loves all of us, but not our sin, these are two things our culture seems to not be able to separate. Our culture seems to think that what we do and feel, good or bad, makes up our entire personhood. From what I understand of the Bible, not only did God create mankind and said it was “good”, but also gave mankind personality and said it was “good”. After God created what He called “good”, Lucifer corrupted it with sin. The sin that the devil introduced is what God rejects, not the person themselves. We have to separate the sin from the person in order to walk the path He wants us to walk.
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Under this reasoning, I anticipate you’re aware that Jesus forgives our sins as he died in the cross for us.
But Jesus is God in human form.
Doesn’t this entail that God is forgiving of our sins and therefore doesn’t seem homosexuality wrong?
Sure, God may not like what Lucifer did. But the sin that he introduced was betrayal and lust.
Homosexuality shouldn’t be wrong. It’s not an act of violence, all the contrary. It’s just loving each other which is what he said to do.-
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1 John 1:9 – If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Proverbs 28:13 – Whoever conceals his transgressions will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy.
Matthew 3:2 – “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”These verses, and many more, explain that in order for God to forgive our sins, we have to recognize that we are sinning, confess that we have sinned, ask God to forgive us of our sin (which doesn’t mean ask for forgiveness just to do it again. The Old Testament speaks of wearing sackcloth and ashes when asking for forgiveness which implies actually being distraught that you have sinned), and actually labor at not doing that sin again. None of these things you can truly do if you don’t start with the first step, recognizing what is sin.
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im sorry that he gave me an extra cell or chromosome or wahtever and made me a guy 🙄-
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(its testosterone)
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I’m sorry if I’m coming off too strong. I was hoping this would just be a light-hearted debate. If you’re getting frustrated I can totally back off.
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Though, the Bible doesn’t say anything about “homosexuality” if I recall correctly.
Unless it does, could you show me these passages?
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Also, this has been abused to a point where people justify and cleanse their actions with.
What if Hitler repented for his sins before he died and also repented and asked for forgiveness before committing suicide? Would God then forgive him as you say here?
Along the many years, historians have proven for religious people to manipulate the words of the Bible to get their way.
The strong powers of the church, being far stronger then the king himself in AngloSaxon times shows how much a single pope can do just because he’s “close” with God.
The fermentation of fear into the peasants which led them to believe the black plague was a holy punishment and started beating themselves until they died bleeding in the streets to try and cleanse their sins.
Say what you will, but I prefer taking my chances at loving another man then be associated closely with the unholy practices the higher-ups in the religious faith have done.
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goated goated goated goated
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There is not a single good earthly thing that cannot be abused for evil purposes. I think this might (correct me if I’m wrong) be one of the few things that we both agree on. However, I believe that we can be a part of something that we disagree with how it was handled and not endorse the bad, only the good.
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Indeed. However, it doesn’t mean we have to hold onto the past if we are able to forgive what the religious headmasters have done. Am I not correct?
To add further more, recent religious figures such as Francis The Pope have allowed same sex marriage and stated that they’re not a crime. A sin, but a very lesser sin that holds nearly no value as its passive.
“God loves all of us, we are their children. incriminating people for loving one another is unjust” – He stated in 2022.
He allowed same sex marriage “urgently” in 2016.
I don’t think the church would allow sinners in their premises.
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Right, we are supposed to forgive the abuse of scripture.
Now, I do not agree with the Pope on nearly anything, because I am not a Catholic. I believe that there is a middle ground between abusing the Scripture, telling everyone that if they breathe wrong they’re anathema, and adding to the Scripture, telling everyone as long as you do these physical things you objectively are saved. This middle ground is simply reading the Bible cover to cover for ourselves, using only as much help to understand the text as needed and, not forgetting, but putting our preconceived opinions in the back of our mind as much as we can (so that we interpret it as correctly as possible). After that is done, then we add back in our preconceived opinions and other people’s interpretations of the Bible and begin comparing and contrasting them. We will still all come to different conclusions, but hopefully, this will ensure that our differences in interpretation will only be as vast as Paul and Barnabas’s.
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Yappity yap of the Holy yappeters
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Don’t bring your own opinion on this. As you’ve stated before your own opinion is not important.
Millions if not billons of people follow the pope.
He’s the closest to God. He should know.
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I don’t know how to convey over text that I’m not being sarcastic or sly in any way shape or form when I say this, but it is your opinion that the Pope is the closest to God. My opinion stems from the text of the Scripture, and in the Scripture there is no mention of a Pope being closest to God. Only the Apostles (all of which are no longer on the Earth with us) and the Body of Christ (which would include every single person who is a Christian) are mentioned.
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Leviticus 18:6-23 ESV
[6] “None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord. [7] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, which is the nakedness of your mother; she is your mother, you shall not uncover her nakedness. [8] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife; it is your father’s nakedness. [9] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your sister, your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether brought up in the family or in another home. [10] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your son’s daughter or of your daughter’s daughter, for their nakedness is your own nakedness. [11] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, brought up in your father’s family, since she is your sister. [12] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is your father’s relative. [13] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is your mother’s relative. [14] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother, that is, you shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. [15] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law; she is your son’s wife, you shall not uncover her nakedness. [16] You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. [17] You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and of her daughter, and you shall not take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter to uncover her nakedness; they are relatives; it is depravity. [18] And you shall not take a woman as a rival wife to her sister, uncovering her nakedness while her sister is still alive. [19] “You shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness while she is in her menstrual uncleanness. [20] And you shall not lie sexually with your neighbor’s wife and so make yourself unclean with her. [21] You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord. [22] You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. [23] And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.-
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So it says being gay is wrong but being lesbian isn’t?
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not sure what the point it here; he’s just saying don’t be a cuck
[22] You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
this all in itself is really confusing and doesn’t really make a point in homosexuality being a sin
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Precisely, it only states the man side and not the woman side.
I believe its a ambiguous statement that Christians misunderstand.If they do follow then they don’t think homosexuality is wrong for females but only for men.
And technically, if you’re gay you wouldn’t lie with a man the same way you would with a woman as you wouldn’t lie with a woman at all (sexually / romantically)
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The readers of the original Hebrew text at the time weren’t as literal as we are today. They would have understood it as homosexuality in general.
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And you know that how? Were you there to know it?
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Interpretation of Leviticus 18:22
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really using reddit as a credible source??
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I’m simply saying that it’s not just me. It’s me and one other person. (I’m kidding)
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Bruh you can’t fr be using Reddit to back up your evidence 💀
I wanna see a trusted religious source agreeing with your thoughts on that one passage.
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1 Corinthians 6:9 (Nice)
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality”
Clearly states only for men.
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i dont get it why are women allowed to have same sex
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Fr, if homosexuality is a sin im 100% going to hell or purgatory even thought im an okay person

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me in hell

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They are not, they only mentioned men but it applies to women, too. As I said, they didn’t need everything said literally to understand it back then.
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I don’t believe that.
Wine / grape juice is still considered Jesus’es blood.
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Only in Catholic tradition. It is symbolic of Jesus’s blood.
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hes saying you shouldnt lay in bed with a man like you would with a woman
ergo 2 men cuddling is a sin
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if everything is perfect in gods eyes (so ive heard), then would that make those that are gay and trans perfect too? and, really, every male human being is trans, thats actually why men have nipples, fun fact. its becuase in the womb were born as women, and then we get the chromosome or the cell or whatever to make us into more men. so in reality im just going back to my roots lol!
so basically god created transgender folk
and actually transsexual folk too, because of those that are hermaphrodites an those that have nothing down there
and to back this up he made the female spotted hyena, which has a faux dick which is the birth-giving organ and that can sometimes even result in death : )and, he probably should have figured that a man would like a man and a woman would like a woman at some point down the line so he probably is just fine with that or had to get used to it at some point lmao..
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i just looked it up and uhh homosexuality has been found in i think nearly every animal in the animal kingdom including insects, gastropods and arachnids among other things,
and these other things are more standard such as mammals like birds
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birds are avians not mammals, thats on me sorry oops!!!!!
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Humans have a moral code and animals do not.
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but were animals
a human is by definition an animal that has evolved
we are mammals
a mammal is an animal
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I don’t believe in evolution as you do. I believe that all creatures, after several generations, ADAPTED to the ever-changing world around them, but I don’t believe that we all started out as germs. In Genesis, God creates all of the different animal kinds (dog-kind, cat-kind, fish-kind, bird-kind, etc.) at one point in time, then at a separate point in time, He creates human-kind. We find out later in the Bible that God created angel-kind sometime before Genesis.
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Animals do have moral codes.
A lion father will leave a male child if they attempt to mate with their female siblings.
Just because they’re animals it doesn’t mean they are stupid or anything. Animals are children of God just as we are and they know what’s right in their own terms or what’s not.
We are animals too.
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How has no one mentioned romans had gay sex too ((Aren’t THEY meant to be holy?))
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With the holy comment I mean the Holy Roman Empire
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ik hes greek but what about dionysus
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I don’t know a lot about Greek mythology, but a quick Google search yields that Dionysus is, at the very least, effeminate, and his sexuality is speculated. Some say he’s gay and others say bisexual.
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dionysus is MY god ☕☕
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For one, the rulers of the Roman Empire may have had the approval of the church, but were just as worldly in their behaviors and policies as any other rulers of the time. Simply because something is titled “Holy” doesn’t make it as such. For another. We’re not talking about groups of people, but individual persons and their individual walks with God and their individual struggles with sin.
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As I said to Damon, our culture seems to think that what we do and feel, good or bad, makes up our entire personhood. From what I understand of the Bible, not only did God create mankind and said it was “good”, but also gave mankind personality and said it was “good”. After God created what He called “good”, Lucifer corrupted it with sin. The sin that the devil introduced is what God rejects, not the person themselves. We have to separate the sin from the person in order to walk the path He wants us to walk.
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what damon said
“Homosexuality shouldn’t be wrong. It’s not an act of violence, all the contrary. It’s just loving each other which is what he said to do.”-
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The loving that Jesus speaks of is, essentially, the willingness to take a bullet for someone, not to be intimate with someone.
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let me ask you a question
aside from the characters you pray to like god and jesus saying that its wrong
what about homosexuality, being transgender and anything inbetween (basically just lgbtq+) is so wrong? tell me. what truly is wrong about it
dont use any bible verses, i want your opinion
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Whether I think it is wrong or not does not matter. Yahweh’s opinion (which, I believe, is the only definition of truth that we have) is the ONLY thing that matters. Jesus also tells us that gluttony (over indulgence, especially in food) is a sin. I love to eat nothing but carbs and sugar. It doesn’t matter that I love this food, He doesn’t love it, so I have to figure something else out.
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yes, it does matter what you think is right or wrong
you cant just rely on some guy in the sky to tell you everything about life
like the carbs for example
thats not god telling you that, its your body and the doctors telling you that?
your body is the one telling you that its not healthy and you need more greens, not “jesus love and thunder”so tell me, what do you think is wrong about homosexuality and all of that. whats YOUR opinion. not gods opinion. not christs opinion. your opinion.
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Other than God’s opinion on it, I simply don’t have an opinion on it. Someone asked the question, I answered the question biblically.
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wow. so youre just using someone elses opinon for everything in your life? thats sad. thats actually sad im not even mad anymore i just feel bad. instead of being your own person youre just a child of god, and thats it. thats everything about you from start to finish. this is why i dont believe in shit like this, because id rather be my OWN person than some puppet for some higher power.
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i said what i said.
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Also, don’t call them characters. We call them Deities in this case.
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i know it comes off as offensive, damon why do you think i said that
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this kinda spits out how much you don’t know about the community.
we’ve taken bullets, we didn’t cast the first stone when we had to fight either— people fought for their right to love at the stonewall riots. pride is not about intimacy, it’s about the community and the identities, how we’re allowed to be who we want to be.not restricted, not held back, not someone we really aren’t. i refuse to worship a god who would cast me to eternal fire for using different pronouns than what i was born with or loving another person.
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This right here ^
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It’s not “an act of violence” but it’s going against/the opposite of what God called “good” which is why I’d be considered a sin. Because it diverts away from what God had originally made our nature to be.(Jumpshoops, you’re doing great and even if you help only one person through doing this than keep going man!)
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Thanks, man!
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Just like every other “movement”, or whatever you want to call it, it’s become very toxic and intolerant
ig it’s intolerant to want to be accepted
look believe what you want but antagonizing lgbtq people isn’t going to do anything, there are bad actors in any movement sure but condemning an entire movement about acceptance as intolerant is silly
I don’t want to cause a fight it’s just my view on this
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I suppose you are right about me making a blanket statement over the ENTIRE community rather than just a percentage is a little disingenuous. I apologize for that, I should’ve spent more time on what I wanted to say there.
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Bro actually opened his eyes 😭 🙏
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I’m sorry, that wasn’t my intention to make a statement about every single person in the community.
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this thread is so
check out my favorite woman!
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That’s a woman?
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Who knew stick nodes users were so passionate about Christianity
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Luke 16:1-31 MSG
[1-2] Jesus said to his disciples, “There was once a rich man who had a manager. He got reports that the manager had been taking advantage of his position by running up huge personal expenses. So he called him in and said, ‘What’s this I hear about you? You’re fired. And I want a complete audit of your books.’ [3-4] “The manager said to himself, ‘What am I going to do? I’ve lost my job as manager. I’m not strong enough for a laboring job, and I’m too proud to beg. . . . Ah, I’ve got a plan. Here’s what I’ll do . . . then when I’m turned out into the street, people will take me into their houses.’ [5] “Then he went at it. One after another, he called in the people who were in debt to his master. He said to the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’ [6] “He replied, ‘A hundred jugs of olive oil.’ “The manager said, ‘Here, take your bill, sit down here—quick now—write fifty.’ [7] “To the next he said, ‘And you, what do you owe?’ “He answered, ‘A hundred sacks of wheat.’ “He said, ‘Take your bill, write in eighty.’ [8-9] “Now here’s a surprise: The master praised the crooked manager! And why? Because he knew how to look after himself. Streetwise people are smarter in this regard than law-abiding citizens. They are on constant alert, looking for angles, surviving by their wits. I want you to be smart in the same way—but for what is right—using every adversity to stimulate you to creative survival, to concentrate your attention on the bare essentials, so you’ll live, really live, and not complacently just get by on good behavior.” [10-13] Jesus went on to make these comments: If you’re honest in small things, you’ll be honest in big things; If you’re a crook in small things, you’ll be a crook in big things. If you’re not honest in small jobs, who will put you in charge of the store? No worker can serve two bosses: He’ll either hate the first and love the second Or adore the first and despise the second. You can’t serve both God and the Bank. [14-18] When the Pharisees, a money-obsessed bunch, heard him say these things, they rolled their eyes, dismissing him as hopelessly out of touch. So Jesus spoke to them: “You are masters at making yourselves look good in front of others, but God knows what’s behind the appearance. What society sees and calls monumental, God sees through and calls monstrous. God’s Law and the Prophets climaxed in John; Now it’s all kingdom of God—the glad news and compelling invitation to every man and woman. The sky will disintegrate and the earth dissolve before a single letter of God’s Law wears out. Using the legalities of divorce as a cover for lust is adultery; Using the legalities of marriage as a cover for lust is adultery. [19-21] “There once was a rich man, expensively dressed in the latest fashions, wasting his days in conspicuous consumption. A poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, had been dumped on his doorstep. All he lived for was to get a meal from scraps off the rich man’s table. His best friends were the dogs who came and licked his sores. [22-24] “Then he died, this poor man, and was taken up by the angels to the lap of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell and in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham in the distance and Lazarus in his lap. He called out, ‘Father Abraham, mercy! Have mercy! Send Lazarus to dip his finger in water to cool my tongue. I’m in agony in this fire.’ [25-26] “But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that in your lifetime you got the good things and Lazarus the bad things. It’s not like that here. Here he’s consoled and you’re tormented. Besides, in all these matters there is a huge chasm set between us so that no one can go from us to you even if he wanted to, nor can anyone cross over from you to us.’ [27-28] “The rich man said, ‘Then let me ask you, Father: Send him to the house of my father where I have five brothers, so he can tell them the score and warn them so they won’t end up here in this place of torment.’ [29] “Abraham answered, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets to tell them the score. Let them listen to them.’ [30] “‘I know, Father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but they’re not listening. If someone came back to them from the dead, they would change their ways.’ [31] “Abraham replied, ‘If they won’t listen to Moses and the Prophets, they’re not going to be convinced by someone who rises from the dead.’” -
Luke 15:1-32 MSG
[1-3] By this time a lot of men and women of questionable reputation were hanging around Jesus, listening intently. The Pharisees and religion scholars were not pleased, not at all pleased. They growled, “He takes in sinners and eats meals with them, treating them like old friends.” Their grumbling triggered this story. [4-7] “Suppose one of you had a hundred sheep and lost one. Wouldn’t you leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness and go after the lost one until you found it? When found, you can be sure you would put it across your shoulders, rejoicing, and when you got home call in your friends and neighbors, saying, ‘Celebrate with me! I’ve found my lost sheep!’ Count on it—there’s more joy in heaven over one sinner’s rescued life than over ninety-nine good people in no need of rescue. [8-10] “Or imagine a woman who has ten coins and loses one. Won’t she light a lamp and scour the house, looking in every nook and cranny until she finds it? And when she finds it you can be sure she’ll call her friends and neighbors: ‘Celebrate with me! I found my lost coin!’ Count on it—that’s the kind of party God’s angels throw every time one lost soul turns to God.” [11-12a] Then he said, “There was once a man who had two sons. The younger said to his father, ‘Father, I want right now what’s coming to me.’ [12b-16] “So the father divided the property between them. It wasn’t long before the younger son packed his bags and left for a distant country. There, undisciplined and dissipated, he wasted everything he had. After he had gone through all his money, there was a bad famine all through that country and he began to feel it. He signed on with a citizen there who assigned him to his fields to slop the pigs. He was so hungry he would have eaten the corn-cobs in the pig slop, but no one would give him any. [17-20a] “That brought him to his senses. He said, ‘All those farmhands working for my father sit down to three meals a day, and here I am starving to death. I’m going back to my father. I’ll say to him, Father, I’ve sinned against God, I’ve sinned before you; I don’t deserve to be called your son. Take me on as a hired hand.’ He got right up and went home to his father. [20b-21] “When he was still a long way off, his father saw him. His heart pounding, he ran out, embraced him, and kissed him. The son started his speech: ‘Father, I’ve sinned against God, I’ve sinned before you; I don’t deserve to be called your son ever again.’ [22-24] “But the father wasn’t listening. He was calling to the servants, ‘Quick. Bring a clean set of clothes and dress him. Put the family ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. Then get a prize-winning heifer and roast it. We’re going to feast! We’re going to have a wonderful time! My son is here—given up for dead and now alive! Given up for lost and now found!’ And they began to have a wonderful time. [25-27] “All this time his older son was out in the field. When the day’s work was done he came in. As he approached the house, he heard the music and dancing. Calling over one of the houseboys, he asked what was going on. He told him, ‘Your brother came home. Your father has ordered a feast—barbecued beef!—because he has him home safe and sound.’ [28-30] “The older brother stomped off in an angry sulk and refused to join in. His father came out and tried to talk to him, but he wouldn’t listen. The son said, ‘Look how many years I’ve stayed here serving you, never giving you one moment of grief, but have you ever thrown a party for me and my friends? Then this son of yours who has thrown away your money on whores shows up and you go all out with a feast!’ [31-32] “His father said, ‘Son, you don’t understand. You’re with me all the time, and everything that is mine is yours—but this is a wonderful time, and we had to celebrate. This brother of yours was dead, and he’s alive! He was lost, and he’s found!’” -
Luke 14:1-35 MSG
[1-3] One time when Jesus went for a Sabbath meal with one of the top leaders of the Pharisees, all the guests had their eyes on him, watching his every move. Right before him there was a man hugely swollen in his joints. So Jesus asked the religion scholars and Pharisees present, “Is it permitted to heal on the Sabbath? Yes or no?” [4-6] They were silent. So he took the man, healed him, and sent him on his way. Then he said, “Is there anyone here who, if a child or animal fell down a well, wouldn’t rush to pull him out immediately, not asking whether or not it was the Sabbath?” They were stumped. There was nothing they could say to that. [7-9] He went on to tell a story to the guests around the table. Noticing how each had tried to elbow into the place of honor, he said, “When someone invites you to dinner, don’t take the place of honor. Somebody more important than you might have been invited by the host. Then he’ll come and call out in front of everybody, ‘You’re in the wrong place. The place of honor belongs to this man.’ Embarrassed, you’ll have to make your way to the very last table, the only place left. [10-11] “When you’re invited to dinner, go and sit at the last place. Then when the host comes he may very well say, ‘Friend, come up to the front.’ That will give the dinner guests something to talk about! What I’m saying is, If you walk around all high and mighty, you’re going to end up flat on your face. But if you’re content to be simply yourself, you will become more than yourself.” [12-14] Then he turned to the host. “The next time you put on a dinner, don’t just invite your friends and family and rich neighbors, the kind of people who will return the favor. Invite some people who never get invited out, the misfits from the wrong side of the tracks. You’ll be—and experience—a blessing. They won’t be able to return the favor, but the favor will be returned—oh, how it will be returned!—at the resurrection of God’s people.” [15] That triggered a response from one of the guests: “How fortunate the one who gets to eat dinner in God’s kingdom!” [16-17] Jesus followed up. “Yes. For there was once a man who threw a great dinner party and invited many. When it was time for dinner, he sent out his servant to the invited guests, saying, ‘Come on in; the food’s on the table.’ [18] “Then they all began to beg off, one after another making excuses. The first said, ‘I bought a piece of property and need to look it over. Send my regrets.’ [19] “Another said, ‘I just bought five teams of oxen, and I really need to check them out. Send my regrets.’ [20] “And yet another said, ‘I just got married and need to get home to my wife.’ [21] “The servant went back and told the master what had happened. He was outraged and told the servant, ‘Quickly, get out into the city streets and alleys. Collect all who look like they need a square meal, all the misfits and homeless and down-and-out you can lay your hands on, and bring them here.’ [22] “The servant reported back, ‘Master, I did what you commanded—and there’s still room.’ [23-24] “The master said, ‘Then go to the country roads. Whoever you find, drag them in. I want my house full! Let me tell you, not one of those originally invited is going to get so much as a bite at my dinner party.’” [25-27] One day when large groups of people were walking along with him, Jesus turned and told them, “Anyone who comes to me but refuses to let go of father, mother, spouse, children, brothers, sisters—yes, even one’s own self!—can’t be my disciple. Anyone who won’t shoulder his own cross and follow behind me can’t be my disciple. [28-30] “Is there anyone here who, planning to build a new house, doesn’t first sit down and figure the cost so you’ll know if you can complete it? If you only get the foundation laid and then run out of money, you’re going to look pretty foolish. Everyone passing by will poke fun at you: ‘He started something he couldn’t finish.’ [31-32] “Or can you imagine a king going into battle against another king without first deciding whether it is possible with his ten thousand troops to face the twenty thousand troops of the other? And if he decides he can’t, won’t he send an emissary and work out a truce? [33] “Simply put, if you’re not willing to take what is dearest to you, whether plans or people, and kiss it good-bye, you can’t be my disciple. [34-35] “Salt is excellent. But if the salt goes flat, it’s useless, good for nothing. “Are you listening to this? Really listening?” -
These are some great points!
I\’ve talked about this before, but this is explained so well that you you can almost throw away my words on this and keep this!
Wow! God is so good and powerful! I almost feel like her testimony was longer and the video started in the middle, but nonetheless, this is the beauty and power and glory of God.
I would say these points also apply to anything conviction based, not just alcohol.
I\’m not sure how I feel about this. I would say that I can respect and understand Michael Knowles\’ opinion here and would not stop the conversation for this reason, but I also wouldn\’t model this and continue to use \”gay\” in conversations.
This video has a lot of great points!
Wow, what a crazy testimony!
This is some WEIRD church history.
Elijah is an incredibly interesting person in the Bible.
I disagree with Denver\’s view here, but it\’s still interesting to study.
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Luke 13:1-35 MSG
[1-5] About that time some people came up and told him about the Galileans Pilate had killed while they were at worship, mixing their blood with the blood of the sacrifices on the altar. Jesus responded, “Do you think those murdered Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans? Not at all. Unless you turn to God, you, too, will die. And those eighteen in Jerusalem the other day, the ones crushed and killed when the Tower of Siloam collapsed and fell on them, do you think they were worse citizens than all other Jerusalemites? Not at all. Unless you turn to God, you, too, will die.” [6-7] Then he told them a story: “A man had an apple tree planted in his front yard. He came to it expecting to find apples, but there weren’t any. He said to his gardener, ‘What’s going on here? For three years now I’ve come to this tree expecting apples and not one apple have I found. Chop it down! Why waste good ground with it any longer?’ [8-9] “The gardener said, ‘Let’s give it another year. I’ll dig around it and fertilize, and maybe it will produce next year; if it doesn’t, then chop it down.’” [10-13] He was teaching in one of the meeting places on the Sabbath. There was a woman present, so twisted and bent over with arthritis that she couldn’t even look up. She had been afflicted with this for eighteen years. When Jesus saw her, he called her over. “Woman, you’re free!” He laid hands on her and suddenly she was standing straight and tall, giving glory to God. [14] The meeting-place president, furious because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, said to the congregation, “Six days have been defined as work days. Come on one of the six if you want to be healed, but not on the seventh, the Sabbath.” [15-16] But Jesus shot back, “You frauds! Each Sabbath every one of you regularly unties your cow or donkey from its stall, leads it out for water, and thinks nothing of it. So why isn’t it all right for me to untie this daughter of Abraham and lead her from the stall where Satan has had her tied these eighteen years?” [17] When he put it that way, his critics were left looking quite silly and red-faced. The congregation was delighted and cheered him on. [18-19] Then he said, “How can I picture God’s kingdom for you? What kind of story can I use? It’s like an acorn that a man plants in his front yard. It grows into a huge oak tree with thick branches, and eagles build nests in it.” [20-21] He tried again. “How can I picture God’s kingdom? It’s like yeast that a woman works into enough dough for three loaves of bread—and waits while the dough rises.” [22] He went on teaching from town to village, village to town, but keeping on a steady course toward Jerusalem. [23-25] A bystander said, “Master, will only a few be saved?” He said, “Whether few or many is none of your business. Put your mind on your life with God. The way to life—to God!—is vigorous and requires your total attention. A lot of you are going to assume that you’ll sit down to God’s salvation banquet just because you’ve been hanging around the neighborhood all your lives. Well, one day you’re going to be banging on the door, wanting to get in, but you’ll find the door locked and the Master saying, ‘Sorry, you’re not on my guest list.’ [26-27] “You’ll protest, ‘But we’ve known you all our lives!’ only to be interrupted with his abrupt, ‘Your kind of knowing can hardly be called knowing. You don’t know the first thing about me.’ [28-30] “That’s when you’ll find yourselves out in the cold, strangers to grace. You’ll watch Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets march into God’s kingdom. You’ll watch outsiders stream in from east, west, north, and south and sit down at the table of God’s kingdom. And all the time you’ll be outside looking in—and wondering what happened. This is the Great Reversal: the last in line put at the head of the line, and the so-called first ending up last.” * * * [31] Just then some Pharisees came up and said, “Run for your life! Herod’s got your number. He’s out to kill you!” [32-35] Jesus said, “Tell that fox that I’ve no time for him right now. Today and tomorrow I’m busy clearing out the demons and healing the sick; the third day I’m wrapping things up. Besides, it’s not proper for a prophet to come to a bad end outside Jerusalem. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killer of prophets, abuser of the messengers of God! How often I’ve longed to gather your children, gather your children like a hen, Her brood safe under her wings— but you refused and turned away! And now it’s too late: You won’t see me again until the day you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of God.’” -
Luke 12:1-59 MSG
[1-3] By this time the crowd, unwieldy and stepping on each other’s toes, numbered into the thousands. But Jesus’ primary concern was his disciples. He said to them, “Watch yourselves carefully so you don’t get contaminated with Pharisee yeast, Pharisee phoniness. You can’t keep your true self hidden forever; before long you’ll be exposed. You can’t hide behind a religious mask forever; sooner or later the mask will slip and your true face will be known. You can’t whisper one thing in private and preach the opposite in public; the day’s coming when those whispers will be repeated all over town. [4-5] “I’m speaking to you as dear friends. Don’t be bluffed into silence or insincerity by the threats of religious bullies. True, they can kill you, but then what can they do? There’s nothing they can do to your soul, your core being. Save your fear for God, who holds your entire life—body and soul—in his hands. [6-7] “What’s the price of two or three pet canaries? Some loose change, right? But God never overlooks a single one. And he pays even greater attention to you, down to the last detail—even numbering the hairs on your head! So don’t be intimidated by all this bully talk. You’re worth more than a million canaries. [8-9] “Stand up for me among the people you meet and the Son of Man will stand up for you before all God’s angels. But if you pretend you don’t know me, do you think I’ll defend you before God’s angels? [10] “If you bad-mouth the Son of Man out of misunderstanding or ignorance, that can be overlooked. But if you’re knowingly attacking God himself, taking aim at the Holy Spirit, that won’t be overlooked. [11-12] “When they drag you into their meeting places, or into police courts and before judges, don’t worry about defending yourselves—what you’ll say or how you’ll say it. The right words will be there. The Holy Spirit will give you the right words when the time comes.” [13] Someone out of the crowd said, “Teacher, order my brother to give me a fair share of the family inheritance.” [14] He replied, “Mister, what makes you think it’s any of my business to be a judge or mediator for you?” [15] Speaking to the people, he went on, “Take care! Protect yourself against the least bit of greed. Life is not defined by what you have, even when you have a lot.” [16-19] Then he told them this story: “The farm of a certain rich man produced a terrific crop. He talked to himself: ‘What can I do? My barn isn’t big enough for this harvest.’ Then he said, ‘Here’s what I’ll do: I’ll tear down my barns and build bigger ones. Then I’ll gather in all my grain and goods, and I’ll say to myself, Self, you’ve done well! You’ve got it made and can now retire. Take it easy and have the time of your life!’ [20] “Just then God showed up and said, ‘Fool! Tonight you die. And your barnful of goods—who gets it?’ [21] “That’s what happens when you fill your barn with Self and not with God.” [22-24] He continued this subject with his disciples. “Don’t fuss about what’s on the table at mealtimes or if the clothes in your closet are in fashion. There is far more to your inner life than the food you put in your stomach, more to your outer appearance than the clothes you hang on your body. Look at the ravens, free and unfettered, not tied down to a job description, carefree in the care of God. And you count far more. [25-28] “Has anyone by fussing before the mirror ever gotten taller by so much as an inch? If fussing can’t even do that, why fuss at all? Walk into the fields and look at the wildflowers. They don’t fuss with their appearance—but have you ever seen color and design quite like it? The ten best-dressed men and women in the country look shabby alongside them. If God gives such attention to the wildflowers, most of them never even seen, don’t you think he’ll attend to you, take pride in you, do his best for you? [29-32] “What I’m trying to do here is get you to relax, not be so preoccupied with getting so you can respond to God’s giving. People who don’t know God and the way he works fuss over these things, but you know both God and how he works. Steep yourself in God-reality, God-initiative, God-provisions. You’ll find all your everyday human concerns will be met. Don’t be afraid of missing out. You’re my dearest friends! The Father wants to give you the very kingdom itself. [33-34] “Be generous. Give to the poor. Get yourselves a bank that can’t go bankrupt, a bank in heaven far from bankrobbers, safe from embezzlers, a bank you can bank on. It’s obvious, isn’t it? The place where your treasure is, is the place you will most want to be, and end up being. [35-38] “Keep your shirts on; keep the lights on! Be like house servants waiting for their master to come back from his honeymoon, awake and ready to open the door when he arrives and knocks. Lucky the servants whom the master finds on watch! He’ll put on an apron, sit them at the table, and serve them a meal, sharing his wedding feast w…[Read more] -
Wow, this is a PERFECT explanation!
Well said, my guy, well said!
Incredible testimony!
Hmm, this is an interesting take on this.
This, I believe, is a beautiful display of the spiritual gifts being active today! Praise God!
This shows the incredible personality/power of God! Believe these testimonies or not, they don\’t contradict the Bible (the ones that do are either obviously false, or our view of scripture is too literal).
In the words of Ruslan, this is a \”W\”! He has some gonads publicly apologizing like this. I still disagree with Chris on several points of his theology, but God is still opening his eyes to the truth as He is with me and with you. Praise God!
100% truth!
This is EXACTLY where I land on this stuff and EXACTLY why I post these things. I\’m trying to BALANCE hating sin and loving people, NOT swerve one way or another. Because I\’m fleshly too, I end up swerving one way or the other, but I stop, ask for forgiveness, and try again, and again, and again, and again, until the Lord takes me home. You\’re likely going to be angry at me because I will not shut up about this. And whether I\’m personally okay with you being angry at me or not, I\’ve chosen to follow the Messiah, so I\’d better BECOME okay with it.
Praise God! I love testimonies like this!
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You’re much better with words than I am, I love these people’s testimonies.
Common jumpsh00ps W
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Ah, you give me too much credit. I’m just fired up about the gospel of Jesus of Nazareth and can’t shut up about Him, lol!
1 Corinthians 15:9
“For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.”
I’m just like Paul here, I’ve likely done more harm to the body of Christ than good, I’m just trying to do my best and pray that maybe when I die He’ll at least allow me to be a janitor in heaven. 😉
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Luke 11:1-54 MSG
[1] One day he was praying in a certain place. When he finished, one of his disciples said, “Master, teach us to pray just as John taught his disciples.” [2-4] So he said, “When you pray, say, Father, Reveal who you are. Set the world right. Keep us alive with three square meals. Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others. Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.” [5-6] Then he said, “Imagine what would happen if you went to a friend in the middle of the night and said, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread. An old friend traveling through just showed up, and I don’t have a thing on hand.’ [7] “The friend answers from his bed, ‘Don’t bother me. The door’s locked; my children are all down for the night; I can’t get up to give you anything.’ [8] “But let me tell you, even if he won’t get up because he’s a friend, if you stand your ground, knocking and waking all the neighbors, he’ll finally get up and get you whatever you need. [9] “Here’s what I’m saying: Ask and you’ll get; Seek and you’ll find; Knock and the door will open. [10-13] “Don’t bargain with God. Be direct. Ask for what you need. This is not a cat-and-mouse, hide-and-seek game we’re in. If your little boy asks for a serving of fish, do you scare him with a live snake on his plate? If your little girl asks for an egg, do you trick her with a spider? As bad as you are, you wouldn’t think of such a thing—you’re at least decent to your own children. And don’t you think the Father who conceived you in love will give the Holy Spirit when you ask him?” [14-16] Jesus delivered a man from a demon that had kept him speechless. The demon gone, the man started talking a blue streak, taking the crowd by complete surprise. But some from the crowd were cynical. “Black magic,” they said. “Some devil trick he’s pulled from his sleeve.” Others were skeptical, waiting around for him to prove himself with a spectacular miracle. [17-20] Jesus knew what they were thinking and said, “Any country in civil war for very long is wasted. A constantly squabbling family falls to pieces. If Satan cancels Satan, is there any Satan left? You accuse me of ganging up with the Devil, the prince of demons, to cast out demons, but if you’re slinging devil mud at me, calling me a devil who kicks out devils, doesn’t the same mud stick to your own exorcists? But if it’s God’s finger I’m pointing that sends the demons on their way, then God’s kingdom is here for sure. [21-22] “When a strong man, armed to the teeth, stands guard in his front yard, his property is safe and sound. But what if a stronger man comes along with superior weapons? Then he’s beaten at his own game, the arsenal that gave him such confidence hauled off, and his precious possessions plundered. [23] “This is war, and there is no neutral ground. If you’re not on my side, you’re the enemy; if you’re not helping, you’re making things worse. [24-26] “When a corrupting spirit is expelled from someone, it drifts along through the desert looking for an oasis, some unsuspecting soul it can bedevil. When it doesn’t find anyone, it says, ‘I’ll go back to my old haunt.’ On return, it finds the person swept and dusted, but vacant. It then runs out and rounds up seven other spirits dirtier than itself and they all move in, whooping it up. That person ends up far worse than if he’d never gotten cleaned up in the first place.” [27] While he was saying these things, some woman lifted her voice above the murmur of the crowd: “Blessed the womb that carried you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” [28] Jesus commented, “Even more blessed are those who hear God’s Word and guard it with their lives!” [29-30] As the crowd swelled, he took a fresh tack: “The mood of this age is all wrong. Everybody’s looking for proof, but you’re looking for the wrong kind. All you’re looking for is something to titillate your curiosity, satisfy your lust for miracles. But the only proof you’re going to get is the Jonah-proof given to the Ninevites, which looks like no proof at all. What Jonah was to Nineveh, the Son of Man is to this age. [31-32] “On Judgment Day the Ninevites will stand up and give evidence that will condemn this generation, because when Jonah preached to them they changed their lives. A far greater preacher than Jonah is here, and you squabble about ‘proofs.’ On Judgment Day the Queen of Sheba will come forward and bring evidence that condemns this generation, because she traveled from a far corner of the earth to listen to wise Solomon. Wisdom far greater than Solomon’s is right in front of you, and you quibble over ‘evidence.’ [33-36] “No one lights a lamp, then hides it in a drawer. It’s put on a lamp stand so those entering the room have light to see where they’re going. Your eye is a lamp, lighting up your whole body. If you live wide-eyed in wonder and belief, your body fills up with light. If you live squinty-eyed in greed and distrust, your body is a musty cellar. Keep your eyes open, your…[Read more] -
I\’m not sure how I feel about this. I believe that demons can possess people and interact with the environment around the people who they are attacking. And I agree that we should pray for demons to leave. But I\’m not sure I agree with physically anointing things with oil, but I don\’t know. Maybe it\’s one of those things where the \”how\” can be debated but the trust in God and the end goal cannot.
Here we go, one of the most controversial issues to date. I believe this is the biblical way to view this.
If this is still too sketchy, admins, let me know, I\’ll take it down.
Chris LaSala made a video about spilling seed on the ground (see Genesis 38:9) that shouldn\’t be talked about on the site and the post got flagged. But I believe the topic is important, so if the admins allow it, I\’ll try to preserve as much of this as I can.
I partially disagree with Chris\’s take. I agree that demons COULD be behind this sinful act, but I don\’t believe that every single time someone does this it\’s brought on by a demon, sometimes it could simply be the lust of the flesh but not controlled by satan and his demons. I also agree that 99.9% of the time it is a sin, however, I think there are unique cases where, for example, someone goes into the military and can\’t have intercourse with their spouse and they do this to thoughts of them specifically, I don\’t think that would be a sin. I know that it\’s extremely niche and most of the time people that perform this act are not in this situation but I think it\’s disingenuous to say that 100% of the time it\’s a sin. I also disagree STRONGLY that if you spill your seed, your salvation is in question. We all struggle with sin, and sometimes we have sins that we can\’t overcome no matter how hard we try.This is one of the first Chris LaSala video that I will say that I agree with almost everything he says. I disagree with Chris\’s seemingly Calvinistic view of predetermination/election (I believe that from God’s perspective He knows where we’ll go, who will accept Him or reject Him, but He hasn\’t made these decisions for us, He gives us free will and ALLOWS us to make choices, no matter how much those choices emotionally grieve Him) and the this-is-the-objective-truth language, but if you get past that and just hear what he\’s speaking about, it\’s GREAT teaching.
I think that numerology in the Bible is cool and good and I think that God can and DOES speak through it, but I\’m not sure what exactly it does other than a specific message for individuals and to be a cool Easter egg for Bible readers to find. I also am a little turned off by this guy\’s KJV-only vibes, but I won\’t hold that against him, KJV is great.
Hmm, I\’ve never even thought of this topic before. Very interesting.
I would love to pick these guys\’ brains on this stuff. It\’s so interesting to me.
I actually didn\’t know about this.
This is everything that I argue for in one video.
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Luke 10:1-42 MSG
[1-2] Later the Master selected seventy and sent them ahead of him in pairs to every town and place where he intended to go. He gave them this charge: “What a huge harvest! And how few the harvest hands. So on your knees; ask the God of the Harvest to send harvest hands. [3] “On your way! But be careful—this is hazardous work. You’re like lambs in a wolf pack. [4] “Travel light. Comb and toothbrush and no extra luggage. “Don’t loiter and make small talk with everyone you meet along the way. [5-6] “When you enter a home, greet the family, ‘Peace.’ If your greeting is received, then it’s a good place to stay. But if it’s not received, take it back and get out. Don’t impose yourself. [7] “Stay at one home, taking your meals there, for a worker deserves three square meals. Don’t move from house to house, looking for the best cook in town. [8-9] “When you enter a town and are received, eat what they set before you, heal anyone who is sick, and tell them, ‘God’s kingdom is right on your doorstep!’ [10-12] “When you enter a town and are not received, go out in the street and say, ‘The only thing we got from you is the dirt on our feet, and we’re giving it back. Did you have any idea that God’s kingdom was right on your doorstep?’ Sodom will have it better on Judgment Day than the town that rejects you. [13-14] “Doom, Chorazin! Doom, Bethsaida! If Tyre and Sidon had been given half the chances given you, they’d have been on their knees long ago, repenting and crying for mercy. Tyre and Sidon will have it easy on Judgment Day compared to you. [15] “And you, Capernaum! Do you think you’re about to be promoted to heaven? Think again. You’re on a fast track to hell. [16] “The one who listens to you, listens to me. The one who rejects you, rejects me. And rejecting me is the same as rejecting God, who sent me.” [17] The seventy came back triumphant. “Master, even the demons danced to your tune!” [18-20] Jesus said, “I know. I saw Satan fall, a bolt of lightning out of the sky. See what I’ve given you? Safe passage as you walk on snakes and scorpions, and protection from every assault of the Enemy. No one can put a hand on you. All the same, the great triumph is not in your authority over evil, but in God’s authority over you and presence with you. Not what you do for God but what God does for you—that’s the agenda for rejoicing.” [21] At that, Jesus rejoiced, exuberant in the Holy Spirit. “I thank you, Father, Master of heaven and earth, that you hid these things from the know-it-alls and showed them to these innocent newcomers. Yes, Father, it pleased you to do it this way. [22] “I’ve been given it all by my Father! Only the Father knows who the Son is and only the Son knows who the Father is. The Son can introduce the Father to anyone he wants to.” [23-24] He then turned in a private aside to his disciples. “Fortunate the eyes that see what you’re seeing! There are plenty of prophets and kings who would have given their right arm to see what you are seeing but never got so much as a glimpse, to hear what you are hearing but never got so much as a whisper.” [25] Just then a religion scholar stood up with a question to test Jesus. “Teacher, what do I need to do to get eternal life?” [26] He answered, “What’s written in God’s Law? How do you interpret it?” [27] He said, “That you love the Lord your God with all your passion and prayer and muscle and intelligence—and that you love your neighbor as well as you do yourself.” [28] “Good answer!” said Jesus. “Do it and you’ll live.” [29] Looking for a loophole, he asked, “And just how would you define ‘neighbor’?” [30-32] Jesus answered by telling a story. “There was once a man traveling from Jerusalem to Jericho. On the way he was attacked by robbers. They took his clothes, beat him up, and went off leaving him half-dead. Luckily, a priest was on his way down the same road, but when he saw him he angled across to the other side. Then a Levite religious man showed up; he also avoided the injured man. [33-35] “A Samaritan traveling the road came on him. When he saw the man’s condition, his heart went out to him. He gave him first aid, disinfecting and bandaging his wounds. Then he lifted him onto his donkey, led him to an inn, and made him comfortable. In the morning he took out two silver coins and gave them to the innkeeper, saying, ‘Take good care of him. If it costs any more, put it on my bill—I’ll pay you on my way back.’ [36] “What do you think? Which of the three became a neighbor to the man attacked by robbers?” [37] “The one who treated him kindly,” the religion scholar responded. Jesus said, “Go and do the same.” [38-40] As they continued their travel, Jesus entered a village. A woman by the name of Martha welcomed him and made him feel quite at home. She had a sister, Mary, who sat before the Master, hanging on every word he said. But Martha was pulled away by all she had to do in the kitchen. Later, she stepped in, interrupting them. “…[Read more] -
This is exactly right!
I enjoy these types of teachings.
This is very interesting.
This is another handful of great debates.
This is an interesting view.
This is a wonderful testimony! The Lord is so good!
This is why I believe that this stuff is both important and needs to be monitored how much stock we put into these claims.
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