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This is an amazing testimony! God is so amazing!
This is exactly right!
This was a great Q&A!
I believe this is 100% true. “Aliens” are not little green men, they literally are demons.
This is exactly why we can say with such conviction, that all other religions are false.
I agree with this, I would even go so far as to say that the money doesn’t explicitly HAVE to go to a church. Mike Winger’s ministry, BibleThinker, for example, is not a church, but if it has helped you the most, than you can most definitely tithe to his ministry. If you think that the local church you go to, BibleThinker, Above Reproach, BibleProject, and Bless God Studios have all been varying levels of helpful to you, you can split up your tithe between them all.
Wow! This is what I use as proof that the spiritual gifts continue today! Yes, Richard didn’t know which woman the Holy Ghost wanted him to speak to, but 1 Corinthians 13:9 tells us that not only is our knowledge incomplete, but also our spiritual gifts. Charismaniacs take this scripture too far and make it seem like they can say literally anything and it be prophetic, but I also believe that Cessationists go too far the other way and say that when it says “we prophesy in part”, it means “we teach in part”.
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Luke 5:1-39 MSG
[1-3] Once when he was standing on the shore of Lake Gennesaret, the crowd was pushing in on him to better hear the Word of God. He noticed two boats tied up. The fishermen had just left them and were out scrubbing their nets. He climbed into the boat that was Simon’s and asked him to put out a little from the shore. Sitting there, using the boat for a pulpit, he taught the crowd. [4] When he finished teaching, he said to Simon, “Push out into deep water and let your nets out for a catch.” [5-7] Simon said, “Master, we’ve been fishing hard all night and haven’t caught even a minnow. But if you say so, I’ll let out the nets.” It was no sooner said than done—a huge haul of fish, straining the nets past capacity. They waved to their partners in the other boat to come help them. They filled both boats, nearly swamping them with the catch. [8-10a] Simon Peter, when he saw it, fell to his knees before Jesus. “Master, leave. I’m a sinner and can’t handle this holiness. Leave me to myself.” When they pulled in that catch of fish, awe overwhelmed Simon and everyone with him. It was the same with James and John, Zebedee’s sons, coworkers with Simon. [10b-11] Jesus said to Simon, “There is nothing to fear. From now on you’ll be fishing for men and women.” They pulled their boats up on the beach, left them, nets and all, and followed him. [12] One day in one of the villages there was a man covered with leprosy. When he saw Jesus he fell down before him in prayer and said, “If you want to, you can cleanse me.” [13] Jesus put out his hand, touched him, and said, “I want to. Be clean.” Then and there his skin was smooth, the leprosy gone. [14-16] Jesus instructed him, “Don’t talk about this all over town. Just quietly present your healed self to the priest, along with the offering ordered by Moses. Your cleansed and obedient life, not your words, will bear witness to what I have done.” But the man couldn’t keep it to himself, and the word got out. Soon a large crowd of people had gathered to listen and be healed of their sicknesses. As often as possible Jesus withdrew to out-of-the-way places for prayer. [17] One day as he was teaching, Pharisees and religion teachers were sitting around. They had come from nearly every village in Galilee and Judea, even as far away as Jerusalem, to be there. The healing power of God was on him. [18-20] Some men arrived carrying a paraplegic on a stretcher. They were looking for a way to get into the house and set him before Jesus. When they couldn’t find a way in because of the crowd, they went up on the roof, removed some tiles, and let him down in the middle of everyone, right in front of Jesus. Impressed by their bold belief, he said, “Friend, I forgive your sins.” [21] That set the religion scholars and Pharisees buzzing. “Who does he think he is? That’s blasphemous talk! God and only God can forgive sins.” [22-26] Jesus knew exactly what they were thinking and said, “Why all this gossipy whispering? Which is simpler: to say ‘I forgive your sins,’ or to say ‘Get up and start walking’? Well, just so it’s clear that I’m the Son of Man and authorized to do either, or both. . . .” He now spoke directly to the paraplegic: “Get up. Take your bedroll and go home.” Without a moment’s hesitation, he did it—got up, took his blanket, and left for home, giving glory to God all the way. The people rubbed their eyes, stunned—and then also gave glory to God. Awestruck, they said, “We’ve never seen anything like that!” [27-28] After this he went out and saw a man named Levi at his work collecting taxes. Jesus said, “Come along with me.” And he did—walked away from everything and went with him. [29-30] Levi gave a large dinner at his home for Jesus. Everybody was there, tax men and other disreputable characters as guests at the dinner. The Pharisees and their religion scholars came to his disciples greatly offended. “What is he doing eating and drinking with misfits and ‘sinners’?” [31-32] Jesus heard about it and spoke up, “Who needs a doctor: the healthy or the sick? I’m here inviting outsiders, not insiders—an invitation to a changed life, changed inside and out.” [33] They asked him, “John’s disciples are well-known for keeping fasts and saying prayers. Also the Pharisees. But you seem to spend most of your time at parties. Why?” [34-35] Jesus said, “When you’re celebrating a wedding, you don’t skimp on the cake and wine. You feast. Later you may need to exercise moderation, but this isn’t the time. As long as the bride and groom are with you, you have a good time. When the groom is gone, the fasting can begin. No one throws cold water on a friendly bonfire. This is Kingdom Come! [36-39] “No one cuts up a fine silk scarf to patch old work clothes; you want fabrics that match. And you don’t put wine in old, cracked bottles; you get strong, clean bottles for your fresh vintage wine. And no one who has ever tasted fine aged wine prefers unaged wine.” -
Sorry I’m late! It’s been a crazy day.
Luke 4:1-44 MSG
[1-2] Now Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wild. For forty wilderness days and nights he was tested by the Devil. He ate nothing during those days, and when the time was up he was hungry. [3] The Devil, playing on his hunger, gave the first test: “Since you’re God’s Son, command this stone to turn into a loaf of bread.” [4] Jesus answered by quoting Deuteronomy: “It takes more than bread to really live.” [5-7] For the second test he led him up and spread out all the kingdoms of the earth on display at once. Then the Devil said, “They’re yours in all their splendor to serve your pleasure. I’m in charge of them all and can turn them over to whomever I wish. Worship me and they’re yours, the whole works.” [8] Jesus refused, again backing his refusal with Deuteronomy: “Worship the Lord your God and only the Lord your God. Serve him with absolute single-heartedness.” [9-11] For the third test the Devil took him to Jerusalem and put him on top of the Temple. He said, “If you are God’s Son, jump. It’s written, isn’t it, that ‘he has placed you in the care of angels to protect you; they will catch you; you won’t so much as stub your toe on a stone’?” [12] “Yes,” said Jesus, “and it’s also written, ‘Don’t you dare tempt the Lord your God.’” [13] That completed the testing. The Devil retreated temporarily, lying in wait for another opportunity. [14-15] Jesus returned to Galilee powerful in the Spirit. News that he was back spread through the countryside. He taught in their meeting places to everyone’s acclaim and pleasure. [16-21] He came to Nazareth where he had been raised. As he always did on the Sabbath, he went to the meeting place. When he stood up to read, he was handed the scroll of the prophet Isaiah. Unrolling the scroll, he found the place where it was written, God’s Spirit is on me; he’s chosen me to preach the Message of good news to the poor, Sent me to announce pardon to prisoners and recovery of sight to the blind, To set the burdened and battered free, to announce, “This is God’s time to shine!” He rolled up the scroll, handed it back to the assistant, and sat down. Every eye in the place was on him, intent. Then he started in, “You’ve just heard Scripture make history. It came true just now in this place.” [22] All who were there, watching and listening, were surprised at how well he spoke. But they also said, “Isn’t this Joseph’s son, the one we’ve known since he was just a kid?” [23-27] He answered, “I suppose you’re going to quote the proverb, ‘Doctor, go heal yourself. Do here in your hometown what we heard you did in Capernaum.’ Well, let me tell you something: No prophet is ever welcomed in his hometown. Isn’t it a fact that there were many widows in Israel at the time of Elijah during that three and a half years of drought when famine devastated the land, but the only widow to whom Elijah was sent was in Sarepta in Sidon? And there were many lepers in Israel at the time of the prophet Elisha but the only one cleansed was Naaman the Syrian.” [28-30] That set everyone in the meeting place seething with anger. They threw him out, banishing him from the village, then took him to a mountain cliff at the edge of the village to throw him to his doom, but he gave them the slip and was on his way. [31-32] He went down to Capernaum, a village in Galilee. He was teaching the people on the Sabbath. They were surprised and impressed—his teaching was so forthright, so confident, so authoritative, not the quibbling and quoting they were used to. [33-34] In the meeting place that day there was a man demonically disturbed. He screamed, “Stop! What business do you have here with us, Jesus? Nazarene! I know what you’re up to. You’re the Holy One of God and you’ve come to destroy us!” [35] Jesus shut him up: “Quiet! Get out of him!” The demonic spirit threw the man down in front of them all and left. The demon didn’t hurt him. [36-37] That knocked the wind out of everyone and got them whispering and wondering, “What’s going on here? Someone whose words make things happen? Someone who orders demonic spirits to get out and they go?” Jesus was the talk of the town. [38-39] He left the meeting place and went to Simon’s house. Simon’s mother-in-law was running a high fever and they asked him to do something for her. He stood over her, told the fever to leave—and it left. Before they knew it, she was up getting dinner for them. [40-41] When the sun went down, everyone who had anyone sick with some ailment or other brought them to him. One by one he placed his hands on them and healed them. Demons left in droves, screaming, “Son of God! You’re the Son of God!” But he shut them up, refusing to let them speak because they knew too much, knew him to be the Messiah. [42-44] He left the next day for open country. But the crowds went looking and, when they found him, clung to him so he couldn’t go on. H…[Read more] -
Luke 3:1-38 MSG
[1-6] In the fifteenth year of the rule of Caesar Tiberius—it was while Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea; Herod, ruler of Galilee; his brother Philip, ruler of Iturea and Trachonitis; Lysanias, ruler of Abilene; during the Chief-Priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas—John, Zachariah’s son, out in the desert at the time, received a message from God. He went all through the country around the Jordan River preaching a baptism of life-change leading to forgiveness of sins, as described in the words of Isaiah the prophet: Thunder in the desert! “Prepare God’s arrival! Make the road smooth and straight! Every ditch will be filled in, Every bump smoothed out, The detours straightened out, All the ruts paved over. Everyone will be there to see The parade of God’s salvation.” [7-9] When crowds of people came out for baptism because it was the popular thing to do, John exploded: “Brood of snakes! What do you think you’re doing slithering down here to the river? Do you think a little water on your snakeskins is going to deflect God’s judgment? It’s your life that must change, not your skin. And don’t think you can pull rank by claiming Abraham as ‘father.’ Being a child of Abraham is neither here nor there—children of Abraham are a dime a dozen. God can make children from stones if he wants. What counts is your life. Is it green and flourishing? Because if it’s deadwood, it goes on the fire.” [10] The crowd asked him, “Then what are we supposed to do?” [11] “If you have two coats, give one away,” he said. “Do the same with your food.” [12] Tax men also came to be baptized and said, “Teacher, what should we do?” [13] He told them, “No more extortion—collect only what is required by law.” [14] Soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?” He told them, “No harassment, no blackmail—and be content with your rations.” [15] The interest of the people by now was building. They were all beginning to wonder, “Could this John be the Messiah?” [16-17] But John intervened: “I’m baptizing you here in the river. The main character in this drama, to whom I’m a mere stagehand, will ignite the kingdom life, a fire, the Holy Spirit within you, changing you from the inside out. He’s going to clean house—make a clean sweep of your lives. He’ll place everything true in its proper place before God; everything false he’ll put out with the trash to be burned.” [18-20] There was a lot more of this—words that gave strength to the people, words that put heart in them. The Message! But Herod, the ruler, stung by John’s rebuke in the matter of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife, capped his long string of evil deeds with this outrage: He put John in jail. [21-22] After all the people were baptized, Jesus was baptized. As he was praying, the sky opened up and the Holy Spirit, like a dove descending, came down on him. And along with the Spirit, a voice: “You are my Son, chosen and marked by my love, pride of my life.” [23-38] When Jesus entered public life he was about thirty years old, the son (in public perception) of Joseph, who was— son of Heli, son of Matthat, son of Levi, son of Melki, son of Jannai, son of Joseph, son of Mattathias, son of Amos, son of Nahum, son of Esli, son of Naggai, son of Maath, son of Mattathias, son of Semein, son of Josech, son of Joda, son of Joanan, son of Rhesa, son of Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, son of Neri, son of Melchi, son of Addi, son of Cosam, son of Elmadam, son of Er, son of Joshua, son of Eliezer, son of Jorim, son of Matthat, son of Levi, son of Simeon, son of Judah, son of Joseph, son of Jonam, son of Eliakim, son of Melea, son of Menna, son of Mattatha, son of Nathan, son of David, son of Jesse, son of Obed, son of Boaz, son of Salmon, son of Nahshon, son of Amminadab, son of Admin, son of Arni, son of Hezron, son of Perez, son of Judah, son of Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abraham, son of Terah, son of Nahor, son of Serug, son of Reu, son of Peleg, son of Eber, son of Shelah, son of Kenan, son of Arphaxad, son of Shem, son of Noah, son of Lamech, son of Methuselah, son of Enoch, son of Jared, son of Mahalaleel, son of Kenan, son of Enos, son of Seth, son of Adam, son of God. -
This is definitely different from what I normally post, but I believe that this is our evidence for why we need God in our life. Our sins start with well-intentioned things like saying that people in these marginalized groups have been hurt and need to be babied (yes, they have been hurt and need love, but babying them is too far), and end with this nonsense where if you mention a marginalized group, you should set yourself on fire. When everything was about the one who died the death that we should’ve died, this crap didn’t happen anywhere NEAR as much.
I think that this tiny little fact is the perfect proof that Luke’s gospel is accurate!
I have mixed feelings about this. The structure of someone’s specific religion CAN be good (it can force them to lift their eyes to God when they don’t feel like it), but it CAN be bad, too (it can feel like they’re being chained to these specific actions and if they don’t do them exactly right, they will burn in hell with all the murderers and rapists). I believe, like everything, it’s based on the individual person, not exactly what they feel, though, that is part of it, but their personality and their specific walk with God. Yes, for us that just want one simple answer to cover the entire problem, it is VERY frustrating, but nothing has ever been that easy.
Going through a 4-hour craze when you tell God that He’s not real sounds so scary! I’ve merely experienced His presence after I’ve done something really wrong, and that got my heart beating out of my chest; I can’t imagine 4 hours of that.
I don’t think I could explain enough to make anyone understand, but when he says that a true Christian’s walk with God is like traveling up a mountain, he’s explaining my walk perfectly! There are SO MANY TIMES that I lose my temper with my wife and almost IMMEDIATELY feel like bawling my eyes out because I just hurt the two people I love the most, God and my wife. In especially this aspect, Paul Washer is teaching something that I’ve not heard any other preacher teach, it’s incredible!
I agree with all of this!
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I love the amount of detail in Luke’s gospel!
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Luke 2:1-52 MSG
[1-5] About that time Caesar Augustus ordered a census to be taken throughout the Empire. This was the first census when Quirinius was governor of Syria. Everyone had to travel to his own ancestral hometown to be accounted for. So Joseph went from the Galilean town of Nazareth up to Bethlehem in Judah, David’s town, for the census. As a descendant of David, he had to go there. He went with Mary, his fiancée, who was pregnant. [6-7] While they were there, the time came for her to give birth. She gave birth to a son, her firstborn. She wrapped him in a blanket and laid him in a manger, because there was no room in the hostel. [8-12] There were shepherds camping in the neighborhood. They had set night watches over their sheep. Suddenly, God’s angel stood among them and God’s glory blazed around them. They were terrified. The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master. This is what you’re to look for: a baby wrapped in a blanket and lying in a manger.” [13-14] At once the angel was joined by a huge angelic choir singing God’s praises: Glory to God in the heavenly heights, Peace to all men and women on earth who please him. [15-18] As the angel choir withdrew into heaven, the shepherds talked it over. “Let’s get over to Bethlehem as fast as we can and see for ourselves what God has revealed to us.” They left, running, and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby lying in the manger. Seeing was believing. They told everyone they met what the angels had said about this child. All who heard the shepherds were impressed. [19-20] Mary kept all these things to herself, holding them dear, deep within herself. The shepherds returned and let loose, glorifying and praising God for everything they had heard and seen. It turned out exactly the way they’d been told! [21] When the eighth day arrived, the day of circumcision, the child was named Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived. [22-24] Then when the days stipulated by Moses for purification were complete, they took him up to Jerusalem to offer him to God as commanded in God’s Law: “Every male who opens the womb shall be a holy offering to God,” and also to sacrifice the “pair of doves or two young pigeons” prescribed in God’s Law. [25-32] In Jerusalem at the time, there was a man, Simeon by name, a good man, a man who lived in the prayerful expectancy of help for Israel. And the Holy Spirit was on him. The Holy Spirit had shown him that he would see the Messiah of God before he died. Led by the Spirit, he entered the Temple. As the parents of the child Jesus brought him in to carry out the rituals of the Law, Simeon took him into his arms and blessed God: God, you can now release your servant; release me in peace as you promised. With my own eyes I’ve seen your salvation; it’s now out in the open for everyone to see: A God-revealing light to the non-Jewish nations, and of glory for your people Israel. [33-35] Jesus’ father and mother were speechless with surprise at these words. Simeon went on to bless them, and said to Mary his mother, This child marks both the failure and the recovery of many in Israel, A figure misunderstood and contradicted— the pain of a sword-thrust through you— But the rejection will force honesty, as God reveals who they really are. [36-38] Anna the prophetess was also there, a daughter of Phanuel from the tribe of Asher. She was by now a very old woman. She had been married seven years and a widow for eighty-four. She never left the Temple area, worshiping night and day with her fastings and prayers. At the very time Simeon was praying, she showed up, broke into an anthem of praise to God, and talked about the child to all who were waiting expectantly for the freeing of Jerusalem. [39-40] When they finished everything required by God in the Law, they returned to Galilee and their own town, Nazareth. There the child grew strong in body and wise in spirit. And the grace of God was on him. [41-45] Every year Jesus’ parents traveled to Jerusalem for the Feast of Passover. When he was twelve years old, they went up as they always did for the Feast. When it was over and they left for home, the child Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but his parents didn’t know it. Thinking he was somewhere in the company of pilgrims, they journeyed for a whole day and then began looking for him among relatives and neighbors. When they didn’t find him, they went back to Jerusalem looking for him. [46-48] The next day they found him in the Temple seated among the teachers, listening to them and asking questions. The teachers were all quite taken with him, impressed with the sharpness of his answers. But his parents were not impressed; they were upset and hurt. His mother said, “Young man, why have you done this to us? Your father and I have been half out of our minds looki…[Read more] -
Wow, praise God!
Though this is still my interpretation of the information given to me, but there’s no way that God doesn’t still give proof of His existence through visions and dreams today!
The historical and archeological facts about the Bible are so interesting! I, personally, don’t understand why people find this stuff so boring, but to each their own, I suppose.
This is another thing I agree with Denver Cheddie on.
This, unfortunately, is what a lot of our generation needs to hear.
To quote one of my favorite worship songs, “There’s no shadow [God] won’t light up, mountain [God] won’t climb up coming after [us]”. Praise God for His love and desire for us to be His children!
I agree with all of this. Yes, it’s a slippery slope, but so is everything else in Christianity.
Great preaching! I need this.
Wow, God planned this out perfectly!
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Here we go, the gospel of Luke starts here!
Luke 1:1-80 MSG
[1-4] So many others have tried their hand at putting together a story of the wonderful harvest of Scripture and history that took place among us, using reports handed down by the original eyewitnesses who served this Word with their very lives. Since I have investigated all the reports in close detail, starting from the story’s beginning, I decided to write it all out for you, most honorable Theophilus, so you can know beyond the shadow of a doubt the reliability of what you were taught. [5-7] During the rule of Herod, King of Judea, there was a priest assigned service in the regiment of Abijah. His name was Zachariah. His wife was descended from the daughters of Aaron. Her name was Elizabeth. Together they lived honorably before God, careful in keeping to the ways of the commandments and enjoying a clear conscience before God. But they were childless because Elizabeth could never conceive, and now they were quite old. [8-12] It so happened that as Zachariah was carrying out his priestly duties before God, working the shift assigned to his regiment, it came his one turn in life to enter the sanctuary of God and burn incense. The congregation was gathered and praying outside the Temple at the hour of the incense offering. Unannounced, an angel of God appeared just to the right of the altar of incense. Zachariah was paralyzed in fear. [13-15a] But the angel reassured him, “Don’t fear, Zachariah. Your prayer has been heard. Elizabeth, your wife, will bear a son by you. You are to name him John. You’re going to leap like a gazelle for joy, and not only you—many will delight in his birth. He’ll achieve great stature with God. [15b-17] “He’ll drink neither wine nor beer. He’ll be filled with the Holy Spirit from the moment he leaves his mother’s womb. He will turn many sons and daughters of Israel back to their God. He will herald God’s arrival in the style and strength of Elijah, soften the hearts of parents to children, and kindle devout understanding among hardened skeptics—he’ll get the people ready for God.” [18] Zachariah said to the angel, “Do you expect me to believe this? I’m an old man and my wife is an old woman.” [19-20] But the angel said, “I am Gabriel, the sentinel of God, sent especially to bring you this glad news. But because you won’t believe me, you’ll be unable to say a word until the day of your son’s birth. Every word I’ve spoken to you will come true on time—God’s time.” [21-22] Meanwhile, the congregation waiting for Zachariah was getting restless, wondering what was keeping him so long in the sanctuary. When he came out and couldn’t speak, they knew he had seen a vision. He continued speechless and had to use sign language with the people. [23-25] When the course of his priestly assignment was completed, he went back home. It wasn’t long before his wife, Elizabeth, conceived. She went off by herself for five months, relishing her pregnancy. “So, this is how God acts to remedy my unfortunate condition!” she said. [26-28] In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to the Galilean village of Nazareth to a virgin engaged to be married to a man descended from David. His name was Joseph, and the virgin’s name, Mary. Upon entering, Gabriel greeted her: Good morning! You’re beautiful with God’s beauty, Beautiful inside and out! God be with you. [29-33] She was thoroughly shaken, wondering what was behind a greeting like that. But the angel assured her, “Mary, you have nothing to fear. God has a surprise for you: You will become pregnant and give birth to a son and call his name Jesus. He will be great, be called ‘Son of the Highest.’ The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David; He will rule Jacob’s house forever— no end, ever, to his kingdom.” [34] Mary said to the angel, “But how? I’ve never slept with a man.” [35] The angel answered, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, the power of the Highest hover over you; Therefore, the child you bring to birth will be called Holy, Son of God. [36-38] “And did you know that your cousin Elizabeth conceived a son, old as she is? Everyone called her barren, and here she is six months pregnant! Nothing, you see, is impossible with God.” And Mary said, Yes, I see it all now: I’m the Lord’s maid, ready to serve. Let it be with me just as you say. Then the angel left her. [39-45] Mary didn’t waste a minute. She got up and traveled to a town in Judah in the hill country, straight to Zachariah’s house, and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby in her womb leaped. She was filled with the Holy Spirit, and sang out exuberantly, You’re so blessed among women, and the babe in your womb, also blessed! And why am I so blessed that the mother of my Lord visits me? The moment the sound of your greeting entered my ears, The babe in my womb skipped like a lamb for sheer joy. Blessed woman, who believed what God said, believed…[Read more] -
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Ah, yes, The Good News!

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This is amazing! I want to evangelize this way!
100% right!
Mike does a wonderful job talking about these things!
I’ve heard the objections that he mentions brought up by atheists, and now I have some rebuttals to these objections.
This is a very long video, but I really think that it contains a lot of points that both Christians and Atheists should take note of.
Wow, this is an amazing testimony!
This is amazing!
I pray that in similar situations, God grants me the words to make the situation better, not worse, and to praise His name the whole way while also not turning the other person off to the gospel.
Wow! First off, I see the church’s list of beliefs as “good” AS LONG AS there is a baseline structure, like the Nicene Creed, for example (there doesn’t seem to be one). Everything in their list is something that I believe God allows us to debate until we meet Him and can ask Him questions directly, but if you use these things as the structure of your church, you might as well not have a church; just have a group of people that you talk about these things with. I also agree that the church kicking him off the property shows their fruits, and that’s very sad.
I agree with this, though, I think that it’s important to clarify that God does (in some cases) use what seems like something negative for good.
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It’s interesting to see how they handled verses 9-20 here as opposed to how they handled the other verses that weren’t in earlier manuscripts (putting a footnote at the bottom versus removing the verse(s) entirely). I like this method of dealing with it more than just removing that part of the Bible entirely, but I can’t say that they objectively did something right or wrong.
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This is the last chapter of Mark, nextup, Luke.
Mark 16:1-20 MSG
[1-3] When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so they could embalm him. Very early on Sunday morning, as the sun rose, they went to the tomb. They worried out loud to each other, “Who will roll back the stone from the tomb for us?” [4-5] Then they looked up, saw that it had been rolled back—it was a huge stone—and walked right in. They saw a young man sitting on the right side, dressed all in white. They were completely taken aback, astonished. [6-7] He said, “Don’t be afraid. I know you’re looking for Jesus the Nazarene, the One they nailed on the cross. He’s been raised up; he’s here no longer. You can see for yourselves that the place is empty. Now—on your way. Tell his disciples and Peter that he is going on ahead of you to Galilee. You’ll see him there, exactly as he said.” [8] They got out as fast as they could, beside themselves, their heads swimming. Stunned, they said nothing to anyone. [9-11] [After rising from the dead, Jesus appeared early on Sunday morning to Mary Magdalene, whom he had delivered from seven demons. She went to his former companions, now weeping and carrying on, and told them. When they heard her report that she had seen him alive and well, they didn’t believe her. [12-13] Later he appeared, but in a different form, to two of them out walking in the countryside. They went back and told the rest, but they weren’t believed either. [14-16] Still later, as the Eleven were eating supper, he appeared and took them to task most severely for their stubborn unbelief, refusing to believe those who had seen him raised up. Then he said, “Go into the world. Go everywhere and announce the Message of God’s good news to one and all. Whoever believes and is baptized is saved; whoever refuses to believe is damned. [17-18] “These are some of the signs that will accompany believers: They will throw out demons in my name, they will speak in new tongues, they will take snakes in their hands, they will drink poison and not be hurt, they will lay hands on the sick and make them well.” [19-20] Then the Master Jesus, after briefing them, was taken up to heaven, and he sat down beside God in the place of honor. And the disciples went everywhere preaching, the Master working right with them, validating the Message with indisputable evidence.] Note: Mark 16:9-20 [the portion in brackets] is not found in the earliest handwritten copies.-
It’s interesting to see how they handled verses 9-20 here as opposed to how they handled the other verses that weren’t in earlier manuscripts (putting a footnote at the bottom versus removing the verse(s) entirely). I like this method of dealing with it more than just removing that part of the Bible entirely, but I can’t say that they objectively did something right or wrong.
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Mark 15:1-47 MSG
[1] At dawn’s first light, the high priests, with the religious leaders and scholars, arranged a conference with the entire Jewish Council. After tying Jesus securely, they took him out and presented him to Pilate. [2-3] Pilate asked him, “Are you the ‘King of the Jews’?” He answered, “If you say so.” The high priests let loose a barrage of accusations. [4-5] Pilate asked again, “Aren’t you going to answer anything? That’s quite a list of accusations.” Still, he said nothing. Pilate was impressed, really impressed. [6-10] It was a custom at the Feast to release a prisoner, anyone the people asked for. There was one prisoner called Barabbas, locked up with the insurrectionists who had committed murder during the uprising against Rome. As the crowd came up and began to present its petition for him to release a prisoner, Pilate anticipated them: “Do you want me to release the King of the Jews to you?” Pilate knew by this time that it was through sheer spite that the high priests had turned Jesus over to him. [11-12] But the high priests by then had worked up the crowd to ask for the release of Barabbas. Pilate came back, “So what do I do with this man you call King of the Jews?” [13] They yelled, “Nail him to a cross!” [14] Pilate objected, “But for what crime?” But they yelled all the louder, “Nail him to a cross!” [15] Pilate gave the crowd what it wanted, set Barabbas free and turned Jesus over for whipping and crucifixion. [16-20] The soldiers took Jesus into the palace (called Praetorium) and called together the entire brigade. They dressed him up in purple and put a crown plaited from a thornbush on his head. Then they began their mockery: “Bravo, King of the Jews!” They banged on his head with a club, spit on him, and knelt down in mock worship. After they had had their fun, they took off the purple cape and put his own clothes back on him. Then they marched out to nail him to the cross. [21] There was a man walking by, coming from work, Simon from Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus. They made him carry Jesus’ cross. [22-24] The soldiers brought Jesus to Golgotha, meaning “Skull Hill.” They offered him a mild painkiller (wine mixed with myrrh), but he wouldn’t take it. And they nailed him to the cross. They divided up his clothes and threw dice to see who would get them. [25-30] They nailed him up at nine o’clock in the morning. The charge against him—the king of the jews—was scrawled across a sign. Along with him, they crucified two criminals, one to his right, the other to his left. People passing along the road jeered, shaking their heads in mock lament: “You bragged that you could tear down the Temple and then rebuild it in three days—so show us your stuff! Save yourself! If you’re really God’s Son, come down from that cross!” [31-32] The high priests, along with the religion scholars, were right there mixing it up with the rest of them, having a great time poking fun at him: “He saved others—but he can’t save himself! Messiah, is he? King of Israel? Then let him climb down from that cross. We’ll all become believers then!” Even the men crucified alongside him joined in the mockery. [33-34] At noon the sky became extremely dark. The darkness lasted three hours. At three o’clock, Jesus groaned out of the depths, crying loudly, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which means, “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?” [35-36] Some of the bystanders who heard him said, “Listen, he’s calling for Elijah.” Someone ran off, soaked a sponge in sour wine, put it on a stick, and gave it to him to drink, saying, “Let’s see if Elijah comes to take him down.” [37-39] But Jesus, with a loud cry, gave his last breath. At that moment the Temple curtain ripped right down the middle. When the Roman captain standing guard in front of him saw that he had quit breathing, he said, “This has to be the Son of God!” [40-41] There were women watching from a distance, among them Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of the younger James and Joses, and Salome. When Jesus was in Galilee, these women followed and served him, and had come up with him to Jerusalem. [42-45] Late in the afternoon, since it was the Day of Preparation (that is, Sabbath eve), Joseph of Arimathea, a highly respected member of the Jewish Council, came. He was one who lived expectantly, on the lookout for the kingdom of God. Working up his courage, he went to Pilate and asked for Jesus’ body. Pilate questioned whether he could be dead that soon and called for the captain to verify that he was really dead. Assured by the captain, he gave Joseph the corpse. [46-47] Having already purchased a linen shroud, Joseph took him down, wrapped him in the shroud, placed him in a tomb that had been cut into the rock, and rolled a large stone across the opening. Mary Magdalene and Mary, mother of Joses, watched the burial. - Load More






literally the only time im going to talk to you but you said something about aliens and that made my brain activate super hard so im just gonna talk about my interpretation of aliens
my interpretation of aliens, if at all, isnt even anything humane
it would be more something like snails, or insects, or any sea creatures, i mean have you even seen the things we have in our ocean?
or, if not anything sentient like that, id consider them things like plants
the game “astroneer” does this super well with the only alien creatures being things like snails and plants
astroneer is one of my favorite space games ever because of the way they interpret aliens
I’m guessing they all look alot like tardigrades and jellyfish
thats such a good take too!
At least on the Christian side of things, I believe it’s a stretch to assume aliens would be demons. I think some of these experiences could either be drug induced, from lack of sleep, or general hallucinations. I try to also not use demons as the cause for everything but it also could be some of these experiences are via demons rather then actual alien encounters. But that assumes demons would firstly do something like this which I don’t know enough about them to say 100%.
I think like in Ruslan’s case maybe just his brain thinks sleep paralysis is some encounter, hence him saying Jesus’ name would be enough for it to end rather then demon caused.
I’m not against these being demon caused I just try to think is there any earthly cause first since most times that’s more realistic/common.
Now to Jade, I’ve heard arguments on all sides with this. It very well could be aliens are like sea creatures I could see it. But I’ve also heard arguments that maybe they are human like since evolutionarily speaking it worked for us. If we were to take the idea that certain environments have set niches, then evolution could lead organisms down paths that have similar outcomes. So maybe aliens look similar to us. Or they could be something completely new depending on their environment. Or maybe they’re now fused with AI or fully robots now in some cases. It’s fun to speculate on these things and come up with ideas.
all i know is that when we find aliens were finished
like, finding aliens is going to cause so much outrage from everyone
nonbelievers, believers, those that think its a demon, those that think its coming for us
its going to cause a war or something, most definitely a worldwide phenomenon
Depends on how we find them. More realistically we won’t be finding any aliens outside of basic bacteria. More then likely they found us already and will eventually send a drone over here. Or skip to the end and just blow us all up or enslave the world somehow. I think we won’t find an intelligent civilization due to how advanced they’d be. They’re likely fully hiding their empire to anyone less intelligent then themselves.
At best we’ll find some pod with a dead alien inside out of pure luck but from there not have many answers.
But if we did find aliens, I could see a war being possible. Really depends on worldwide views on things. Most people religious included I think won’t view them as demons or something about to take over the world. I think we’d stay at peace unless the aliens work with a specific country that may try to take the rest of us over. But that’s more like a movie plot then reality.
what makes you think any other aliens would be advancing faster than we did or would? in fact, more than likely, theyre probably a little bit behind us, because we were right at the end of the universe being hot, which is when life was abgle to thrive
theyve been advancing slower or at our same speed
Fair point, there is a good chance we are the most advanced civilization at the moment.
It all really depends on who’s the fastest right now. As if we’re number 1, then we’re not finding anyone for a very long time. Our tech just isn’t there. Like I said above, realistically the first alien we’ll see is bacteria or something on a nearby planet. But that still might take thousands if not way more to happen
if we do ever find bacteria on a planet, that planet has probably developed actual animals and stuff but the light just hasnt reached us yet
i guess that really depends on distance though
Imagine if there’s another civilization out there like us with cars and guns and capitalism and communism.
That would more then likely mean there are more companies/brands/monopolies out there, which means if we spread into the stars, general motors, colt, general mills, Amazon and Microsoft might have extraterrestrial competition
Imagine an intergalactic stock exchange
notice ghow youre the only one talking about alien guns and cars and capitalism and communism
or stock exchanges
Okay
I noticed
What now?
are they wrong tho
actually they arent but it would have been better if literally anyone else said something about cars than the car guy
(casts tibia explosion spell on you)
actually dies